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Ronald Barbee

11-29-2005 12:12:45




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I plan to add an addition to my farm house. The addition will be on a pier-and-beam foundation and will measure 28ft by 20ft. It will join the existing house which has a standard-slope gabled roof (one story). I plan to do much of the interior construction such as the plumbing and electrical, cabinets, etc. (we live in a NE Texas farm house where there is no need for permits or inspections). There will be a closet and bathroom included in the design.
I have received estimates of around $25,000 to have the external work done, including hanging and floating the dry walls inside.
Does this sound reasonable? If not, does anyone have an idea as to what the material cost should run for such an addition?
Thanks
Ron

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in-too-deep

11-30-2005 15:24:09




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
My vocational teacher told me $150/ sq. ft. That's all finished, paint, carpet and what-not.



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Lou

11-30-2005 07:51:03




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
Get 2 more estimates and compare, However the price you mention seems in line. Good Luck



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Case Lady

11-29-2005 21:20:39




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
In the Tulsa area, doing most of the finish work yourself, you are still looking at $60-65/ft2 for supplies and the rough-in. If you are close to a Lowes store, you might check and see into their billing options to see about getting a builder discount. Hope this helps. CL



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John (C-IL)

11-29-2005 17:13:36




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
It's been 10 years, but we added 16 x 28 2-stories to our old farm house. Family room, stairs to the second floor, 3 closets, large bathroom and a bedroom. My sons and I did all of the work except finishing the drywall, laying the carpet and the HVAC ducts. Total cost for the project including a 7 x 22 concrete porch w/roof was $26,000. So....the costs have doubled since then. it's still twice what you were quoted.

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Highlander

11-29-2005 14:16:17




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
You may not need a permit or an inspection, but you still need to follow code. There are state codes and national codes and you can find them in your local library or even on-line. If you don't follow code you may compromise your homeowner's insurance. For instance, if there is a fire due to an electrical fault, even if it is not directly caused by your work, if the work didn't meet code, you may not be covered. Just a caution for all of us who do it ourselves.

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genep

11-29-2005 13:59:46




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
This might not help much on comparing cost, but we added a 18'x36' addition on a slab in the spring. It was a sunroom with a 8x18 porch under roof, making the interior 18x28 which included a small full bath and a closet. It has a vinyl tile floor, four 36"x72" windows, and all brick outside. The roof was 4/12 hipped. I did all the wiring, the rest was done by a contractor. the cost was about $36,000, twice as much as it cost to build the original all brick house in '72. We're in central Mississippi.

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Midwest redneck

11-29-2005 13:57:31




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
I built a 2500 ft2 home and moved in in 2000. It is a ranch with block crawl. it was $70/ft2 for the house. I did the finish work.



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Billy NY

11-29-2005 13:34:56




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
The best thing you can do for your own "piece of mind" is finalize the design of what you want to build, pier size, beam size, framing sizes, spacing, doors windows, siding, etc. etc. Detail it with dimensions so that you can do a quantity take off. It does not have to be fancy, rough sketches do work, but make it neat and legible to use. Take off the quantities in a list form, in columns, right through to the interior finishes, don't forget mechanical, electrical and plumbing items. An accurate material quantity take off will allow you esitmate material costs within reason and gives you a reference number for that part of the job, in case a contractor tries to gouge you on materials. That is half of the job, you need to plug in labor costs to set the piers, 1st floor framing, erect the walls, set rafters, trusses, install roof, install doors windows, mechanicals etc. etc. The more time you spend up front to do this, use and organized approach to the project, the better informed and more intimidating you will be to contractors. If you are going into this blind, do not have any backround of any prospective contractors, you need to be careful, cosntruction contractors will never change, mind you there are good ones, but I see it all the time in residential work, people get into serious problems when all they needed was a construction manager to protect their interest using the same industry standards for multi-million dollar projects, but on a smaller scale. Create a solid design, ( honestly, having a bare basic set of plans, be it a doghouse or a mansion, is always a smart move, be it drafted by hand, in autocad, or rough sketches ) This defines what you want built, provides details and dimensions sufficient enough to do the above.

A good contractor will do the material take off, based on plans, may add some additional cost for handling materials if warranted, but 20% mark up is max. and I think too much, but he's got cot costs to cover if handling materials. The prospective contractor should then use his experience to apply labor costs to the project, for a portion or as a whole, maybe he will subcontract, mechanical, electrical, plumbing or what have you, that sub, will add 10 % profit 10% overhead to the number he submits to the general contractor and in turn the G.C. will lump all the costs of everything with 10% profit/10% overhead on top of both material and labor costs. If you prepare a rough estimate yourself, you can price out materials, and it does not take much to look at the activities needed to build a project this size, apply durations and manpower to each to arrive at a labor cost. If you have no experience in this, it is a good idea, lets that contractor know your hard earned money is not to be taken for granted, if you have experience in construction then you will know what I am talking about, a few checks and balances go a long way, a job this size is small, so you shouild be able to keep things in simple terms, but as I see constantly in my area, people get lousy contractors who are once awarded the job become a real pain to deal with, delays and cost overuns etc etc. Get a few quotes on everything, do the math up front, remember prices cahnge constantly, 6 months from now, it will be more, we call it escalation, have to keep that in mind, things change weekly and daily now.

Most of this is common sense, but if you do the above, it is a big help, once everything is defined, organized then you have a "scope of work" and you can buy out what you want others to do, and anything you can do yourself is always a cost savings, minus your time, also organizing everything helps you create a contract or simple agreement so you at least have something in hand stating what you are buying and for how much.

And to directly answer your question, regarding cost, you really need to do the estimate to get a fairly accurate idea, from your area, comparatively speaking, I'm sure others will mention what a similar job may have cost, but yours is unique to itself, so an estimate is really the best way, very hard to pinpoint a cost from the information provided to be honest.

ALso coordinate details where it attaches to the existing, if you are in a cold climate, any domestic water pipes need protection in that crawl space, access for future repairs, crawlspace is a real pain to work in, consider these kind of things, the more you do up front, planning, the better the job will turn out.

It may sound ridiculous for some, 28 x 20 you don't need to go through all this, and that is fine, be it a doghouse or a mansion, plan ahead, it will save you time, money and headaches.

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Uncle

11-29-2005 13:13:18




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
I am in the middle of adding a 16x20 addition to my house and I am doing all the work.
This addition is going to cost about 1/2 of what it took 15yrs. ago to build my 1900 sq.ft. home.
It's killing me.



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old

11-29-2005 13:09:34




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to Ronald Barbee, 11-29-2005 12:12:45  
This is from a local ad paper, Whitburn #1050 3 bed room home with 2 car garage, rough in pkg.$17,071. Doesn't include foundation. Thats just to give you an idae of cost. By the way thats a 26X60 house



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terryjd

11-29-2005 23:39:31




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 Re: OT-Room Addition Estimate in reply to old, 11-29-2005 13:09:34  
I built a 15 X 20 2 story addition with a 8ft high poured basement and a tin roof about 10 years ago. Did all the work myself except for the basement, don't know much about doing cement or foundations. Was all permitted and inspected. Cost right around $23,000. From what I have seen of the price of building supplies at present am glad I am not doing it now.



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