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No buts! Safety first!

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Specter

12-12-2005 17:01:47




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Had a close call today. Dad and I were fixing holes on a truck wheel, using the welder. I was chipping the slag off when a piece hit me full in the lip. Holy smoke, what a hornet that was! I thank my lucky stars I was wearing my safety glasses, because if that hit my eye, I wouldn't be here to write this lecture on safety!

You've probably heard this many, many times before, but I'll say it again. Safety first. A lip will heal, but an eye won't.

Work and play safely.

Specter
Central Alberta

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Dan Hill

12-15-2005 04:45:55




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
I avoid chipping hot slag.Wear a full face shield.A cotton jacket thats treated to resist burning cost 25.00.A short leather apron will keep hot stuff off the family jewels..



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Ken in Mich

12-14-2005 05:55:25




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
Ever watch the show "American Chopper"? These guy grind with the sparks hitting all around their eyes, with no shield or glasses. Then they weld squinting their eyes or turning thier head,(tacking), sleavless shirts etc. The show is a total safety nightmare, I cant believe something hasnt been said to straighten them out. I just wonder how many watch this and go out it their garage thinking these practices are just fine.

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

12-13-2005 12:35:01




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
Not saftey glass topic but I was welding one time with a thin shirt on and I got the worst radiation burn on my belly I ever had. I wear a heaver shirt while welding now.



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chip man

12-13-2005 12:05:22




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
I have a question. What were you welding on a truck wheel???



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Specter

12-13-2005 14:13:58




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to chip man, 12-13-2005 12:05:22  
The previous owner of a 3-ton truck I bought used the wheels on his hay trailer. Unfortunately, he wasn't very maintenence concious, and the wheel nuts came loose. The bolt holes wore to about 3 or 4 times the original size. He threw the wheel aside, but I thought, "Why not rebuild the holes?" So Dad and I went to work on it last afternoon. We placed a thick washer with the right hole size in the wheel hole, and welded it in, and slowly built up the weld until it was just over flush with the rest of the rim. Then we ground the weld down to flush with the rim. Looks just like new, and should easily be strong enough.

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RodInNS

12-13-2005 17:00:17




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-13-2005 14:13:58  
If this wheel is on a truck that's going over the road, then I'd be awful uncomfortable with a repaired wheel. I'd be especially uncomfortable if these wheels require tapered lug nuts. It's near impossible to get the correct profile on the taper, or even maintain the flatness of the wheel itself. If the wheel has high points and low points, or the tapers are not perfect, the wheel will not torque correctly. With improper/uneven torques, you run the risk of the nuts backing off, and the wheel going for a hike. I don't think I would use a repaired wheel on a truck, but if you do, keep an eye on it.

Rod

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Specter

12-14-2005 07:49:54




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to RodInNS, 12-13-2005 17:00:17  
No, its a straight-through hole on these ones. I was going to keep an eye on it, but I think we got it strong enough. I need to buy two more rims anyway, so I might buy 3 while I'm about it. I'm not really planning on keeping this truck anyway (I'm not really a truck person, more into tractors), so the next owner can decide what they want to do with it.

Anyone interested in buying a 1951 Maple Leaf Chevy 3-ton?

Lyndon
Central Alberta

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Tim...Ok

12-13-2005 06:58:21




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
Thanks for reminding us.. very important I'm still having trouble remembering to put mine on. I've worn glasses all my life,so didn't have to worry about safety glasses,always had'em on..They were prescription safety glasses,best thing I've ever done was had LASEK done last year,no glasses at all now,but now I don't have my full-time safety glasses,so I gotta relearn to wear'em..



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RAB

12-12-2005 22:54:07




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
Just remember, your eyes have the ONLY living tissue actually on the surface of your body - all the rest is dead cell material - hair nails, skin outer layers. That is why protection is so important. You only have one pair of eyes - no spares available yet.
Regards, RAB



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Billy NY

12-12-2005 21:13:42




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
I used to see so many guys using metal chop saws to cut bundles of metal studs on high rise building jobs, sparks, metal chips flying, not to mention the ear piercing noise, no safety glasses and no ear protection. I even wear the glasses in the woods when cutting trees and brush, constantly getting whacked in the face by chips, thorn trees etc. no excuse not to protect your eyes, on my ironworker crews I used to take a grape and poke a toothpick into it, to demonstrate what will happen, it worked well, and the hot slag, I can honestly say that is the worst, it sometimes burns through, then rolls down somewhere until it reaches it's destination, then it just sits and burns while you look like a raving idiot trying to get it off you, almost comical but not, got to protect the eyes though, very important.

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BobinKY

12-12-2005 20:57:09




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
Has anyone found a pair of glasses that you can wear that will keep small dust particles out of contacts? I have tried a number of different glasses but they all steam up real quick. I got a pair from my brother ten years ago that had a foam pad that sat between the face and the glasses and they did a real good job. Unfortuantely, over the years the glasses have become scratched beyond use and I cannot find another pair. They were great when I was using the table saw, chain saw, planer, etc. They also kept dirt out of my contacts when I was laying under a vehicle or tractor working. Any help would be appreciated.

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williamf

12-13-2005 11:26:48




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to BobinKY, 12-12-2005 20:57:09  
In the paper mill where I work safety glasses are an absolutely all the time thing. And contact lenses are forbidden. Wm



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DCM

12-12-2005 20:22:44




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
You are never to old for surprises Lyndon, Dan in AB



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Don-Wi

12-12-2005 20:20:15




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
I work in a machine shop, and can't tell you how many times a chip has hit me right between the eyes w/ my safety glasses on. Other times I have them stick to my lip, and in a panicked motion when I got it off with my tounge, I burnt that as well. I always wear them in the shop.

On another note, this past Saturday my dad and I were getting some hay, nim w/ the F450 flat bed from work and me with my F150 and small trailer because the 24' flatbed at his work was loaded for next week already. It started to snow once we got to the guys farm we were buying from, and on the way home one stop came up a little quick on my dad, and I was behind him. He mad ethe corner, but I locked up and kept sliding, afraid I was gonna hit him or jack knife. I managed to keep my rear end straight and I just kept going, up the the set of lights ahead and turned their then caught up with him again. Had my heart going for a second though....
Donovan from Wisconsin

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xragman

12-12-2005 18:07:12




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
I have been weaing saftey glasses for over 45 years. I can show you 4 pair that I kept that will explain why to wear them all the time.



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RodInNS

12-12-2005 18:04:48




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
The safety glasses don't always protect you fully either, so don't lean on them too heavily. Eyes heal too. BT/DT. Keep an emergency eye wash station around. You never know when you might need it.
BTW, if you want a real hornet's nest, drop some slag down your drawers..... . Owwwwwhhh hot.....

Rod



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rick YYC

12-13-2005 06:08:55




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 Re: slag in reply to RodInNS, 12-12-2005 18:04:48  
and buring through a sock - can't unlace the boot fast enough!



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NC Wayne

12-12-2005 20:41:58




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to RodInNS, 12-12-2005 18:04:48  
Man I know what your talking about there. I kept getting a "warm feeling" down there one day while I was setting down doing some production welding. I did a couple more pieces before actually flipping my helmet up to find that my pants had caught on fire. Nothing burnt thank goodness but that was a close call....



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Harold Hubbard

12-13-2005 04:39:35




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to NC Wayne, 12-12-2005 20:41:58  
Worst I ever did was to run a bunch of slag down the back of my hand, inside a cast. I stood there and ground my teeth, waiting to see if the cotton inside was going to actually catch fire. It didn't so I didn't stick it in a pail of water. When those little burns started healing I had one more itch in there that I couldn't scratch.



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JohnDeereGreen

12-12-2005 17:36:20




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 Re: No buts! Safety first! in reply to Specter, 12-12-2005 17:01:47  
Spector,
I didn't wear saftey glasses for a long time, but being in the industral arts program at school, they have become second nature. I bought a pair that has a neckband, and keep them around my neck every time I'm woring in the shop, at school, home, and in the real shop, on the farm.

Thanks for reminding us, once again, JohnDeereGreen



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