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kerry W

12-15-2005 19:23:33




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What should I add to my diesel fuel in the winter and where can I purchase it? I am in NC.




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Robert in W. Mi.

12-16-2005 07:28:28




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
Years ago i had to get an injection pump rebuilt, so i took it to my pump builder. He called me a few days later and said: "you've been useing Power Service haven't you?" I said yes, and he went on to say it was hard on pumps and don't use it again.

A couple weeks later when i went back to pick up the pump, he handed it to me and didn't let go of it right away saying, "if you use PS in this pump, i won't warranty it!"!! I never used it again.

This pump place sold Stanndine (sp) additive at "his cost" to his customers, because he said it was easiest on pumps and the best on the market.

I use very little if any in my diesels but when i do i use Standinine.

Robert

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4020dt

12-17-2005 18:42:06




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 12-16-2005 07:28:28  
I have been using the Standadyne Peformance , I think that's the version of it , the blue label one , for many years . I use straight # 2 fuel + the additive with no problems . Plowed snow many years with a 4430 this way , use it in other Deeres 20 , 30 and 40 series , Mack trucks and in my Duramax . This past couple weeks it was right at zero a couple days and I was using 11% soydiesel in the Duramax with the additive with no problem . Same for the Mack and the 3020 I was choring and moving snow with .

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Jay (ND)

12-16-2005 07:31:48




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 12-16-2005 07:28:28  
Interesting - I have been using it for 18 years with no problems - but I hate it when people say that, so let me say this. Just because I haven't had any problems does not mean that it is the right thing to do.

I will tell you this, Power Service is the most recognized/widely sold anti-gel. And now the new power service has lubricity additives. I think they started with the lubricity additives about 10 years ago.

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DJM75

12-16-2005 05:35:13




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
I don't know if you can find it but Howe's diesel treatment is the best they even guarantee if you gel up they pay the tow. It will raise cetane increase lubricity and increase fuel mileage. I get it hear in Iowa at Theisens which is like farm and fleet, TSC.



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Nebraska Cowman

12-16-2005 04:17:27




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
in NC? I doubt you have too add anything. As long as it never gets colder that 15 -20 degrees #20 diesel will be fine. Colder than that you start adding some #1, probably 10-20% should get you by.



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Jay (ND)

12-16-2005 06:17:33




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-16-2005 04:17:27  
I agree - thats why I suggested just some anti-gel.



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BobMo

12-15-2005 20:26:38




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
Check this!!!
What should I do in the winter to adjust for the cold temperatures?
We recommend that you purchase a diesel fuel that has been winterized for your area by mixing it with Diesel Fuel No. 1 or low-temperature fluidity improver additives. Non-winterized diesel fuel will not generally cause problems as long as temperatures are at or above 10°F. The addition of about 15% to 20% Diesel Fuel No. 1 to Diesel Fuel No. 2 will reduce the cloud point of the fuel by about 5°F.

We offer winterized product in a majority of markets that experience severe weather conditions. If temperatures fall well below norms for the local area or you will be driving much farther north, additional Diesel Fuel No. 1 blending is recommended.

Why shouldn’t I just use Diesel Fuel No. 1?
While Diesel Fuel No. 1 has an advantage in low temperature operability, there are some disadvantages, as well. The energy content of Diesel Fuel No. 1 is about 95% that of Diesel Fuel No. 2 and will provide a correspondingly lower fuel economy. Diesel Fuel No. 1 is also lower in viscosity and provides less lubrication for the fuel pump and fuel distributor.

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Ryan - WI

12-15-2005 19:57:00




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
If the fuel is semi-new this most likely has already been done by the fuel company. Most of the companies around here automatically switch to #2 around October



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Jay (ND)

12-15-2005 19:58:53




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to Ryan - WI, 12-15-2005 19:57:00  
Um - #2 is the fuel that is used in the summer. #1 is lighter and doesn't gel as easily. But in all likelyhood, it's a mix they are getting.



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Leland

12-15-2005 19:51:43




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
1st how cold does it get there .



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Jay (ND)

12-15-2005 19:38:11




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to kerry W, 12-15-2005 19:23:33  
In NC I would recommend Power Service or Arctic Express. Both are the same product in different bottles. It comes in quart (treats 100 gallons) and 3/4 gallon (treats 300 gallons). About $4 for the quart and $9 for the 3/4 gallon. Available at truck stops.



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Yugtrotcart

12-17-2005 04:29:21




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 Re: winter diesel in reply to Jay (ND), 12-15-2005 19:38:11  
I make a living delivering diesel fuel to farms and such. Fuel is seasonaly adjusted for the climate that it is used in. Should have no problems and no need for additives. A few things to keep in mind though. The suction pipe in your fuel tank should be at least 4" from the bottom of your fuel tank, use a water seperating fuel filter on your tank pump. Keep your farm tank full, and your tractor/ truck tank full to reduce condensation.

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