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Joe Bloggs

12-20-2005 17:31:19




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I need to know if I can tow a tractor with the rear wheels still on the ground. I have an old wrecker (tow truck)that can lift the front and I was going to an auction and hopefuly get another tractor but I will want to tow it home behind the wrecker. it would be aprox 120 miles has any one done this before. thanks




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Don L C

12-21-2005 12:40:23




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
Too far at propper tractor tire speed.....(about 15-20 MPH)----Put the rear wheels on dolly and cruse about 60 MPH>>>>>>



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Mike M

12-21-2005 05:29:24




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
It would also very much depend on what model tractor was going to be towed.



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New-Gen

12-21-2005 04:44:36




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
That remiinds me of when I was working at a New Holland dealership years ago. A customer called and asked if it would hurt his 775 skidsteer loader to pull it far enough to load it on the trailer...what they forgot to mention was the fact that the trailer was 15 miles apart...lotsa bucks...

I tow my New Generation John Deeres from field to field on a dolly, transmission in tow position, engine running, never over 20 mph..but I don"t think I"d try towing an old tractor 120 miles.....

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Bob

12-20-2005 21:36:32




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
When you tow a tractor WITHOUT THE ENGINE RUNNING, you risk ruining the transmission because engine driven lube pumps are not running, or, in some cases, the top tranny shaft may not get splash-lubed in that situation, either. In either case, $$$$ damage may be done.

One example is the "New Generation" series of Deeres with synchro range. There is a specific "tow" position on the gear shifter, and, if you tow the tractor with the shifter in any other position, rather than precisely in "tow", you will "smoke" gears on the transmission's upper shaft because the engine is not operating the transmission pump.

A friend of mine has towed his Ford Major Diesel backhoe all over about half of the state, for many years, though. All went well until the range transmission got low on oil, and he did quite a number on that, while towing.

On a slightly different note, some years back, I bought a 1370 Case with a cracked final drive housing, about 10 miles from the shop. It had sat unused for a number of years, so the crack was pretty free of oil, and I figured I could silicon the crack shut, and drive the tractor to the shop for repairs. I sealed the crack with silicon, let it cure for several days, and then dumped perhaps 1/2 the required oil in the rear end, and started the tractor. Almost immediately, the tranny lube pressure gauge came up, so I thought I was "in the clear" to drive the tractor home. I started off, watching the tranny lube gauge, which never wavered. By the end of my trip, I had locked up the high-low-reverse tranny due to lack of oil. That's when I found out lube for that area comes from oil being splashed up into a trough be the differential's ring gear, and since the oil level was low, the ring gear was not dipping in oil, and splashing it in the trough to lube the range gears and bearings!

I couldn't believe that... having good tranny lube pressure, yet "killing" the tranny from lack of lube!

That could happen any time there is a leak, and enough oil is lost to stop that splash lube, yet there is enough oil left for the pressure lube system to work. STUPID system!

So, instead of a simple final drive ring gear and housing replacement, I had to do a $$$$ transmission overhaul!

So when there's a long road distance involved, or perhaps some problems, hauling the unit on a trailer can save $$$$!

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JMS/MN

12-20-2005 20:00:44




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
Towed a WD about that distance many years ago- no trailers around to rent, no $ to buy one with. used my pickup tow bar bolted onto the WFE of the WD. Went 25-30 mph on lesser traveled highways. 40 miles from home a rear wheel blew out, from the fluid sloshing in it. Replaced that and pulled it the rest of the way. Wouldn't recommend it though.



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jhill

12-20-2005 18:15:12




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
I have towed a tractor short distances at low speeds on a car dolly (20 miles). It will work but you have to keep the speed down. 120 miles is a long way though probably take its toll on the tires.



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Aaron Ford

12-20-2005 18:02:03




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Joe Bloggs, 12-20-2005 17:31:19  
I am about 120% positive that this cannot be done. The axle/driveline speed would be ridiculous. The tires are not rated for the speed and even reverse towing would destroy the front end. They are simply not designed with this in mind. Go rent a U-haul trailer, lie like mad about what you will be towing (ie 98 Saturn SL1 1700lbs) for $49 dollars a day and go for it. Just beware of the 4000lb limit and 77 inch wide maximums. I have heard that 5800lbs is possible on a U-haul trailer but don't let 'em see you doing it. The U-haul rigs trailer like a dream, have good tie-down points, and come with integral ramps. Beware lights have to work before you leave and a credit card may be required. Just don't rent through Freeway Citgo in LaVale, MD or you will be sorry. Just trust me on this one.

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Myrl (PA)

12-20-2005 19:39:35




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 Re: towing tractors in reply to Aaron Ford, 12-20-2005 18:02:03  
Hey I know that citgo place ..... . I am from bedford PA And you are right about using the trailer. Even a short distance at high speed can ruin a tractor and the towing machine!!!



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