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Dan in Ore

12-24-2005 07:52:05

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I am going to buy a new 2006 Dodge Cummins diesel. I wanted a block heater installed, but the salesman told me it wasn�t necessary, because the Cummins would start as low as 20 below. Does anyone know if this is accurate or not? Also, in talking to some people they tell me that there is a heater built-in on the Cummins somewhere in the manifold near the turbo and all you need is a cord to plug in to it. Is that true, and how can I come up with a cord?

Thanks, Dan

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lucasss

12-25-2005 05:28:16

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

i dont know. but ,if the dealer cant tell you and show you for sure id get another dealer. lucas

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kyhayman

12-24-2005 15:57:12

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

My '01 wont dream of starting if its below 30 and not plugged in. Started about 200,000 miles. New batteries helped but still not quite enough.

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Davis In SC

12-24-2005 21:33:32

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to kyhayman, 12-24-2005 15:57:12

You must drive a lot... My '01 dually just rolled over to 38,000 miles... :^)

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kyhayman

12-24-2005 21:49:41

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Davis In SC, 12-24-2005 21:33:32

Afraid so, got mine in May of '00. 238,855 and change. Whats worse, I havent put 3000 on it since Sept, when diesel hit $3 at 50,000 miles a year I had to get a car. Its been a good truck, I'm going for 10 years and 700,000. So far, on my second set of batteries, a freeze plug, a starter, 4wd axle motor, 6 sets of brakes, and a rotor.

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MN Scott

12-24-2005 11:51:37

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I went to the Dodge web site and that cord for the block heater is a $10 option when you order the truck.

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Kevin in Texas

12-24-2005 11:11:07

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

Here's the lowdown on block heaters, you can take it to the bank...

All Dodge diesels had standard block heaters with cords up through the January of 2004 model trucks. These newer ones are known as the 600's. Dodge still installs the heater in the block, but deletes the cord now. You can buy the cord as an option or buy it over the counter at the dealership. Believe me, the Dodge forum guys exploded when the cord got to be an added cost option. It's chicken poop, frankly.

Before the Jan 04's, the cord was standard on every one, and located on the core support by the passenger headlight.

Cummins don't have glow plugs, they have intake heaters. They tend to start much easier down colder than glow plug engines do. It has to do with the swept area, being a 6 cylinder, each hole is larger and pulls more volume than an equivalent size V8 would.

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Jugger

12-24-2005 10:25:00

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

Ive drove a 1990 dodge with cummins now for about 6 years never once have i had it plugged in....And its started everyday on alot of cold south dakota winter mornings

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Larry-tx

12-24-2005 10:18:45

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I have a 99 and the heater cord is on passenger side in front beside radiator. Open hood and there it is.

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Chances R

12-24-2005 10:03:07

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I would want a heater just because it would be better on the engine to start it in the winter. I can tell you my 99 Ford has a heater and it really uses the electic. A timer is a must!

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Old Pokey

12-24-2005 09:46:25

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

Boss just bought an 06 this week. He said the glow plugs wont even light untill its like allmost freezing out. I have no idea if it has a heater in it or not, but I'll look next week.

Those things sure are built for the long haul. I was very impressed by the generous amounts of iron they put in the power and drive train.

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Davis In SC

12-24-2005 09:45:09

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

My '92 and '01 both came with a block heater, like another poster said, the cord may be hidden. I assume the still come standard , with a block heater...

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CJM in WI

12-24-2005 09:40:28

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I have an 04 dodge cummins. I am 99% sure that all cummins come with the block heater and you just have to buy the cord. If you are ordering a truck then order the cord with it. A think the dealer sells the cord over the counter for about 10 times what you can buy it for at a cummins shop. Check out Turbo Diesel Register and find a new salesman

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Johnski

12-24-2005 09:30:51

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I had a customer come into the shop with a 99 and wanted me to install a block heater. I found that it had one from the factory, the cord was hidden behind the battery on the pass side. I don't know about the new ones but it's worth a look. HTH

P.S. No I didn't charge him for one. ;>)

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doodelbug

12-24-2005 09:18:28

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

i have a 04 and a 05 dodge with the CTD. never had a starting problem. im in tx. where it dosnt get too cold but i do travel up north. try reading the sales literature and see what it says. then tear the salesmans head off if he is wrong. be surprised what you can get after a good butt chewing.

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ejr-IA.

12-24-2005 09:12:25

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I have a 2000 which has the engine heater ,I have it on a timer for a couple hours in the morning when it's real cold 10 or below.The other week when it was -15 and forgot yo plug it in it still started right up.I use 10-30 in the winetr time and 60 40 blend of fuel.

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John S-B

12-24-2005 08:55:33

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

Yeah it will start ok but do you want to have to wait 5-10 minutes before the defroster has any heat? The wear and tear you save is more than worth it, not to mention the convinience. I just carry a good 50' cord with a GFI.

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Doug in IL

12-24-2005 08:32:28

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

We have a '97 and '02. They have never failed to start in temps as low as 27 below. They do have an electric grid manifold heater that is used as a part of the startup proceedure. They are operated off of the batteries tho, no plug in.

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billyiron

12-24-2005 08:09:03

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

Id go back to the dealer and say, Look Here Scooter,put me a plug in heater or forget the whole deal,,,I guarentee youll get your heater,,,billy

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Sandbur

12-24-2005 08:01:53

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Dan in Ore, 12-24-2005 07:52:05

I have a 1991 Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel, it has a block heater.It has started for me in the coldest weather without being plugged in,(was in a situation on the road where i couldn't plug it in). Always started! The block heater in my opinion eases starting and wear and tear from starting up a cold engine. If you live in the north I wouldn't buy a diesel without one. The salesman probably is trying to sell you a truck already on his lot that doesn't have a block heater on it to save the trouble of getting one installed. But I can't believe they wouldn't be on there anyway. Just my 2 cents. Merry Christmas!!

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Larry NE IL

12-24-2005 12:00:22

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Re: OT: Dodge Cummins in reply to Sandbur, 12-24-2005 08:01:53

I just got my '06 3500 dually. The block heater is included.....just no cord. Like Billy said, after you make a deal, tell the salesman to throw in the cord....mine did. Larry NE IL

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