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Tire going flat

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paulinkansas

01-12-2006 16:08:12




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The rear tire (12.9 x 48 I think) of my Deere went flat overnight. It's 30 years old with the original tube and tires. I put half a gallon of that sealant liquid in there, aired it up, and drove it around. Now it gets flat in 3 days.

Today I sprayed it with some soapy water and saw bubbles coming out of the rim where the valve stem enters.

Can a tire place fix the tube, should I buy a new tube, or should I add more sealant?

Thanks.

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Leland

01-12-2006 19:56:10




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
No tire shop really wants to even see a tire that has had this stuff put in it ,probley have rust on rim that cut tube your better off to dismount tire clean up rim and buy a new tube .



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Tire Doctor

01-12-2006 18:55:55




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
Experience tells me that you really can't tell the condition of the tire until you get in and check the inside. I have seen really good looking tires on the outside that were unusable when looking at the inside. Also I have seen tires that I was sure I would get a sale from but had to reuse. With the age of the tube I wouldn't recommend reusing it even if it could be patched. Personnally the only tire sealant I don't like to work with is kind that airs up the tire. The older kind used propane and were exposive. We really don't need that kind of excitment.

TG

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RustyFarmall

01-12-2006 18:27:04




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
That goop is meant to be used in tubeless tires only, and I've never had much luck with in that application either. Bite the bullet and replace the tube.



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RodInNS

01-12-2006 17:52:23




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
Double check the tire size, and then call your tire shop and make sure they have a tube for you. Then get the tire to them. That tube is so old it's probably rusted to the wheel by now, and I doubt they're going to save it. Might be lucky to save the tire...
Air leaking from around the valve stem (betweenn the valve stem and wheel) is a sure sign of a bad tube, but not necessairly a bad tire.... BTW, I've never found any of that goop to be worth a damn. Mabey that's just me.....

Rod

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Hugh MacKay

01-12-2006 17:36:44




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
Paul: Take the damn wheel off and do it right. Most tubes I've seen at half that age are crap.



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Allan in NE

01-12-2006 17:18:38




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
Boy, I dunno Paul,

I think 30 years is about all we could expect out of a tire and tube. Don't ya think it's about time to start thinkin' 'bout replacin' 'em?

Allan



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RayP(MI)

01-12-2006 17:00:15




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
If the leak is at or immediately around the stem, they have a patch that can be used which replaces the stem. However, without opening up the tire, the condition of the tube is hard to diagnose. If the tube is old and cracked, or chafed from the rim, there may be many weak spots just waiting to give you problems. As the other poster notes, tire dealers don"t much care to work on tires with goop in them. You"re probably due for a new tube. Also as the other poster notes, tractor tires can be hard to work on, especially if you don"t have the equipment. It is usually money well spent to have the experts do the work.

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Joe Bloggs

01-12-2006 16:38:00




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
My experience with this problem is that the tire you have is cracked. long ceacks on the side wall that are only obvious when the tire is flat. if this is the case the tube is worthless. now if you have a new tube put in it wont last long. but there is a way around that.what I do is get an old tube thats in good condition and slit it around the middle and also cut out the valve then I put that in the tire and then put the new tube in so the new tube is wraped by the old one then refit the tire. this stops the new tube getting pinched by the old tire. it is also helpfull when you have the tire off to glue ture patches ,I use the 8x10"s any where the tire has rotted through. this is usualy from stress newr where the tread meets the side wall.thats my view.

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Keith T.

01-12-2006 16:22:57




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 Re: Tire going flat in reply to paulinkansas, 01-12-2006 16:08:12  
My experience with tire stores is that they won't mess with a tube that has had that "Goop" put in them . Best bet is to call one to come out or air it up and drive it to them which will save a service call.Wrestling a big tire off the rim a fixing it is best left to pros. not to mention dangerous.



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