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wet vs dry Cylinders

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raleigh

03-22-2006 13:23:34




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You read about certain engines when looking at these tractors and you see some with dry Cylinders and some with wet cylinders....What is the advantage and dis advantage to both? Why is one better or worse than the other?




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Bob

03-22-2006 14:05:59




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 Re: wet vs dry Cylinders in reply to raleigh, 03-22-2006 13:23:34  
Either system is pretty good.

Wet sleeves are easier to replace, but depend on "O" rings to seal the lower ends to the block, and the "O" rings can eventually leak. The top of the sleeve sets down in a counterbore, which can eventually wear, and require machining, and a repair sleeve.

Wet sleeves seem more prone to cavitation damage in diesels than dry sleeves, or "parent-bore" blocks. The theory is that the sleeve actually "rings" from the shock of the diesel combustion, and this vibrating causes water molecules to burst into steam, eventually pitting through the sleeve. Since the wet sleeve is somewhat isolated from the rest of the block, it vibrates more.

Dry sleeves are a tighter fit, and harder to get out, and harder to replace. SOME engines using dry sleeves require that the sleeve be finished to it's final size (fitted to the piston) AFTER installation, which is an extra cost. If a piston breaks, there may be damage that goes beyond the thin dry sleeve, into the actual block, whereas a wet sleeve has no bore backing it up, to be damaged. Of course, with either system, a catastrophic failure can damage the block at the base of the sleeve. Sometimes this can be repaired, sometimes, not.

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JCSinGA

03-22-2006 13:55:44




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 Re: wet vs dry Cylinders in reply to raleigh, 03-22-2006 13:23:34  
Cylinder is not the best word for it, the liner is what your talking about when you say wet/dry.
However the liner in some cases makes up the complete cylinder.
Wet liners in my opinion are the best, with proper tooling the liners can be removed from the block and new ones installed without much trouble.
Dry liners are generally thin sleeves that are pressed inside the cylinder, they do give the option of numerous rebuilds on one block but are not mechanic friendly and usually a machine shop needs to remove and install them.
You have issues of antifreeze leaking into the engine oil on a wet sleeve engine that you wont have with dry, but it's not common that they do that.
Either engine is ok but from a mechanic standpoint wet is better.

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