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Need opinions regarding rakes please.

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Bob in WY

03-27-2006 13:58:17




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How important is it to be able to angle a rake and to be able to turn it around to be used as a push rake? If it is important, how much angle is needed?

Background, I have an ag. system I have designed for ATV’s and have considered building one for small tractors. It is a carry behind system similar to a three point but the implement only hooks up with two points. One of the most important features of it is the system applies a forgiving down pressure on the implement. Forgiving means that if an obstacle is hit the implement will raise up over it then move back down. It also doesn’t lift the ATV when applying the down pressure, instead it transfers weight from the back axle to the front and the implement. Once the ATV starts moving forward the weight will transfer back which makes traction less of an issue. The system is patent pending and is an expansion of a system I built to make ATV snowplows more effective. So far I have attached S-tines, back blade and a box scraper to it. Next is a rake which will be followed by disks.

The reason for the question is a local landscaper is interested in the system but needs a rake. I will be asking him this question also but I don’t want to design it only for one persons use. I want to design it for as many uses as practical. I have purchased a rake for ATV’s that another company offers. It is well built (meaning heavy) but I think it could be better designed. I am considering just cutting it apart and starting over so I would appreciate any input into what people like to see in rakes.

Thanks in advance. I have attached a picture so everyone can get an idea of what I am talking about.

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George in Biloxi

03-28-2006 06:41:25




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 Re: Need opinions regarding rakes please. in reply to Bob in WY, 03-27-2006 13:58:17  
Hello,
I have a 7' rake that will swivel and turn around. I would not buy one with out it. I use it pulling when raking. However, when I have piled a bunch of material around like roots and such, the hill gets to big to drive the tractor over and not hit the mound with the rake. I get all the material close by, reverse the rake and push it in the pile. Then, I take the front loader and push the material into it, or reverse into the pile and push it to the burn area or the street.

George

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JoeK

03-27-2006 23:04:18




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 Re: Need opinions regarding rakes please. in reply to Bob in WY, 03-27-2006 13:58:17  
Just my opinion,but"rakes"get pulled to rake out the loose material they're being used for"after" its dumped or bladed.The idea of the rake is to breakup and allow a limited amount of material to pass thru and under it to fill in the low spots etc."Pushing" mass material with a rake rather than a blade or boxblade would seem to me to be a lesson in frustration do to improper geometry and"leakage"thru the sweeps.Take a look at some of the golf course bunker and beach rakes which all seem to be towed ala"backblade",though some self propelled units have a front"planer bar" of channel or angle to skin off the high spots.Planers seem to be showing up on skidloaders and wheelloaders more these days too as they have more finesse than blind bucket work.

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Bob in WY

03-28-2006 06:35:13




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 Re: Need opinions regarding rakes please. in reply to JoeK, 03-27-2006 23:04:18  
Thanks, The rake I bought was setup to angle and be turned around to be used as a push rake. I couldn't see the logic behind it so I asked the question of others to see if I was missing something.



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