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Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they?

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B. Abseck

03-27-2006 21:16:39




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I was looking through the photo archives and saw several different tractors with "rare" rock shafts. What were these used for and where were they located on JD"s. It also seems that these tractors had either these devices or a 3 point but maybe not both. I am trying to learn what I can as I am still looking for my first tractor and don"t know s#%t from shinola yet. Diplomatic answers appreciated LOL!!

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HAS

03-31-2006 10:57:31




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to B. Abseck, 03-27-2006 21:16:39  
A rock shaft typically only lifts the implement - you can't pull the implement with the rock shaft. You do both with the 3-point.



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Kendall

03-28-2006 13:51:21




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to B. Abseck, 03-27-2006 21:16:39  
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Stan - Florida

03-28-2006 05:28:40




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to B. Abseck, 03-27-2006 21:16:39  
B. - I'm putting a scan of a page from an old John Deere sales brochure over in the Tractor Photos gallery on this site. It will be entitled Rock Shaft Operation...should help you understand a bit more.

Stan



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Allan In NE

03-28-2006 05:01:11




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to B. Abseck, 03-27-2006 21:16:39  
Horizontial shaft that rotates to do the lifting.

Allan

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John S-B

03-28-2006 13:21:31




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to Allan In NE, 03-28-2006 05:01:11  
Hey Allen, what kind of Farmall is that?



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Allan In NE

03-28-2006 15:29:36




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to John S-B, 03-28-2006 13:21:31  
Hi John,

Its a 1980 686. Really a gutsy ol' bear. :>)

Allan

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B. Abseck

03-28-2006 09:37:32




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to Allan In NE, 03-28-2006 05:01:11  
Now that"s what I"m talking about. See you guys-just show me a picture!!!!



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Christos

03-27-2006 21:46:19




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to B. Abseck, 03-27-2006 21:16:39  
Ok rockshafts in a nutshell....

They are a rotating shaft to put it simply. In the case of the two banger John Deeres, they typically for the letter series and the subsequent children you could mount intergral equipment such as a cultivator, planter, etc.

After 1953 and the resolution of the Harry Ferguson v Ford Motor Co. over the patents of the 3-Point hitch which uses the same principle of using a rockshaft to hydraulically lift an intergral implement to engage and disengage the soil (Draft Control) or to float on the surface (Response Control).

So the three point hitch became the standard method of hitching and mounting intergral implements...any tractor built after 1955 will typically have one unless it was deleted at the factory. So a rockshaft is just part of the hydraulic system in a tractor as the rest of it makes up the rest of the story. There is an article on this site that deals with the three point hitch.

If you get a two banger JD you can get a kit or go find an 801 hitch, which you can make into a 3-Point and put the arms onto the rockshaft - you'd have crude draft (as the pressure of lets say plowing would warp the steel top-link bracket) and have mainly response control the ability to float implements like a bush-hog on the ground.

hopes this helps

Christos

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B. Abseck

03-27-2006 22:10:16




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to Christos, 03-27-2006 21:46:19  
Christos, I guess I'm really thick cause I still don't get what they look like or how they were put onto a tractor or where exactly. I sure hope someone has a picture of the what, where. Thanks for trying though. Bruce



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JMS/MN

03-27-2006 21:45:02




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 Re: Rock shafts- What the h#$$ are they? in reply to B. Abseck, 03-27-2006 21:16:39  
Rock shafts are what raises and lowers the three point hitch, or on earlier models, maybe just the cultivator units. Simply a pivoting shaft that rotates in an arc, courtesy of a hydraulic cylinder. Has nothing to do with those miserable creations of our Creator that break things when we hit them in the field. Just a shaft that rocks back and forth to raise and lower stuff.



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