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Re: O/T Electric wireing

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paul

03-29-2006 09:04:04




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The to code answer is run a new line with 4 conductors.

Some will suggest just using the ground wire because 'it goes tot he same place' but the ground wire does a different job than thew nuetral wire, and interchanging them like that makes all metal surfaces on all your electrical devices _hot_ if something should go wrong - a short, etc. Not a good idea.

Turning your ground wire into a nuetral wire by changing the ground busses around is possible, but that leaves you without a ground wire, which isn't to code or real good either.

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VADAVE

03-29-2006 11:35:44




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 Re: O/T Electric wireing in reply to paul, 03-29-2006 09:04:04  
Wait a minute Paul if something goes wrong--like you get a short--then you blow the breaker.
The risk you are trying to talk about is the possiblity that the ground will "float". This means that the case and the ground wire could be at some voltage higher then earth. However it only takes one connection to ground to bring ground to earth. That's why code requires that the ground leg be attached to a rod driven into the ground. And as I said earlier ground and neutral are attached in the breaker box thus neutral is also at earth.

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KEB

03-29-2006 20:14:06




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 Re: O/T Electric wireing in reply to VADAVE, 03-29-2006 11:35:44  
VADAVE: Not all faults blow a breaker. It is entirely possible to have a fault that will supply enough current to give a fatal shock without the breaker ever knowing it ever happened.

An example here would be somebody using a drill under the kitchen sink. A fault between the motor windings and the drill case (assuming its not a double insulated one) would make the case hot with respect to the plumbing, which is connected to earth. You're doing really well to get the resistance of a single ground rod down to less that a few 10's of ohms, so there will be some resistance in the path back from the pipe to the ground rod to the neutral buss in the breaker panel. 120 volts across 20 ohms is 6 amps, well below what will pop a breaker but many time higher than the current necessary for a fatal shock.

A safety ground wire will have a lot less resistance, and would therefore carry the fault current back to the breaker instead of the current flowing through a hazardous path. Without the safety ground wire, the drill would operate normally even though the case is at 120 volts above ground.

Gound fault interrupters in high risk places such as kitchens & bathrooms add another layer of protection against fault conditions that don't blow breakers. A ground fault interruptor monitors the current in the hot & neutral leads, and opens the circuit if there's ever a difference. Any difference in current means that some of the current is flowing in a fault path somewhere instead of returning on the neutral.

Codes are in place for a reason, and even though that reason may not be intuitively obvious, I can gurantee you that the codes are based on well thought out engineering practices.

Keith

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