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Hurst
02-21-2006 16:36:21
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Re: JD 4010 vs AC D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-20-2006 20:58:38
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I read your other post above and am trying to follow along. It sounds like the D19 may need some work on the valves like others have suggested, but I would first make sure why they had the head off. One thing, you said the tractor has been overhauled with a 4020 kit, that would put that tractor up to near 100 hp easily, esp if it has the M&W turbo kit. A 70 hp D19 is in a completely different leage than a 4010 deere. A better comparison would be a 4010 with a 4020 kit compared to a 190xt, 200, or 7000. What will you be using the tractor for. Without knowing this, it will be hard to tell you. If this tractor was going to be a baling tractor, I would say the allis hands down. We had a D17 series 4 diesel for baling on our farm for a long time, and since we got rid of it, we really regret it. The hand clutch was the greatest thing for baling. Also, the D19 has "live PTO" but not "Independent". The D19's pto is actually "Live" through the hand clutch. Some may say that this was not actually live pto, but to me, it does the same thing as a daul stage clutch in ford tractors or any others and is even handier being a wet clutch pack. If you are looking for a loader tractor, see if you can find an industrial allis around with a shuttle clutch, these will be harder to find, but they are a much better loader tractor. Where exactly are you in GA? I would talk to the seller about delivery, that is how I got mine delivered from northern ohio to central ky. If Ky is not too far, there are a lot of 180s, 170s, 190s, 175s, 185s, and 200, and some 7000 series roaming around here. If you are really concerned with economy, I would recommend an allis with a 301 diesel. This would include the 180 through the 7000, 7010, 7020, and 8010. This engine with a turbo can put out around 115 pto hp with just turning up the pump. Most turbos are stock at around 100 or 110. It was a great motor, relatively cheaper to work on than the 262 diesel, but the tractors will be slightly newer and probably a little more. Another piece of advice, if you are really set on an allis, or even as specific as a D19, don't try to buy a subsitute. If you do that, you may not be happy with your purchase. I am not sure if you are just doing hobby farming, looking for a project, or need a real work tractor, but for the first two of these three catagories, get what you really want, and be patient, as something is bound to turn up. I really wanted to find my old series 4 diesel d17, but instead I bought a 7000 black belly, since I at least wanted to keep my first tractor orange and allis, but that was because I had a connection to allis, since the first tractor I ever drove was an allis. If you are not loyal to a brand in any way, then I will tell you to find what you can get for the best deal. By that, I mean get something that is less expensive, but not a basket case. If you can only find deere, then they should not be much more than that allis will cost, probably less since you would be looking at over $1000 dollars in shipping most likely if it is form up north, and the parts seem to be avalible. Let me kow if you have anymore questions. The biggest thing that would help me give advice is to know what you will be doing with the tractor. Without knowing this it can be hard as certain tractors were good for certain things. Good luck Hurst
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