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OT: Industrial Hemp Production.

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Kelly C

02-22-2006 08:17:16

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I am just kind of learing a bit about this. I am trying to decide what side of this issue I will fall.
From a few things I have read and seen. This seems like a very valuable crop.
I aksed my Grandmother about this and apparently my family was very big hemp farmers durring WW2. She said they even had German POW's working in thier fields in Iowa.
At least now I understand the term she used to use all the time. When ever she thought some one was acting stupid. " He must be smoking a rope"
At least I know what that means now.

What do you guys think about this subject? I see Canada is now producing Industial hemp now. Are we in the US missing the boat here?

Natianal Industrial Hemp Soc.

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Dave NE IA

02-24-2006 18:42:44

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

As a child I remember drinking milk from the cows pastured in fields with lots of weed. The milk company had no problems, although it was sold as cream, and the skim milk went to the hogs. We drank it but it had a bad off flavor that we never did get used to at all. I'm not a pot head by any means, and I live in the county with the most meth in the United States. However the issue of legal pot many feel is shot down by big companies that make wine, beer, wiskey etc. with campain money for a back scratch. Can we imagine what that would do for the big profits? Don't want to break fowl on anyone, and whip the Nam thing on you either, but I know many that smoked pot, and I would trust them anyday for the most part over the beverage abusers. I do neither like I mentioned but a old guy in my neighbor hood had cancer, and the doctors told him to try some home grown for pain. He was seventy when he started and he told me personaly that was the only thing that cured the pain. He was very upset with him self, and I watched the tears in his eyes because he felt like a bad person for doing drugs. I would strongly suggest that we are loosing the battle on drugs, and I feel that our economy is being structured to bring on alot more illegal activity. With our county being on Jay Leno as the biggest problem with the least convictions we are trained as EMS and firefighters to make that very high on our list of concerns in any emergency calls. Not taking sides, just wondering what will work for our kids. I am in favor of everything made in the USA till we get our economy back in the black. Perhaps we as citizens will have to do it on our own as the government has a different objective of profit making. After we get black numbers then experiment with the economy in other countries. Dave NE IA

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K_In_Sierra

02-23-2006 13:04:44

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Saw an article mentioned about DEA & a few states talking about this... Link

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MF#1

02-23-2006 07:49:53

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

My Dad, Uncle, and Grand-dad grew many acres of hemp during WW2 in KY. One field was about 25 acres, all cross-checked. The govt provided the seed and that was ALL they wanted back. Dad said he hated the harvesting because of all the dust and the small size of the seed. The seed was used for medicine and explosives. I"ve got a "permit" somewhere that the govt gave to growers.

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Bernsy MN

02-23-2006 06:39:08

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Hey Kelly, A little history, hemp used to be grown in West central MN, the old hemp barns out on hiway 12 near Grove City have been converted to turkey barns. A lot of it still comes up voluntary in the cow pasture, the cows did not like it. I believe it was grown in the forties.

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TRC

02-23-2006 04:22:41

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

I think you've already come to the same conclusion I have, Kelly. Although there are certainly some good reasons to at least explore legally growing hemp and converting it into commercial products, too many people want it to be legalized because they want legal "wacky tobacky" as you put it. It is difficult to tell the honest from the snake-oil salesman.

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Kelly C

02-22-2006 21:09:21

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Re: Thanks for the input guys.. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Looks like I still need to wait and learn some more before I decide to support this type of thing or not.

No I am not looking for a alternate crop. I have my hands full just with real grass.

I was watching a program on TV this morning. They were showing the Ag potential for hemp.
I honestly only heard of 2 uses for hemp in my whole life. I knew they made rope out of it and hippies smoked it. Thats the exstent of my knowledge of hemp.

This program was talking up hemp like it is the savior of the American Farmer.
They were talking about making houses, Boxes, clothing and Henery Ford made a car out of it. Bla bla bla.
But they made 2 statements that peaked my interest.
1st they stated that adding a hemp crop to a crop rotation reduced the need for herbacides and pestacides. In my book thats a good thing. We spray way to much stuff on our land.

2nd part that I found of interest.
They stated that if Hemp was a major crop with developed markets. You cant ship hemp all over the place. To much mass, so the mills would be located near the crop sources. IE in the rural comunities. Thus keeping more of the money near the producers. I also see that as a possitive.

So 3 things are going to keep my mind open on this subject. Less oil from Arabia, Better care of our land and jobs in rural comunities.

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Hugh MacKay again

02-22-2006 17:16:29

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Kelly: The reason I made this new crop suggestion is, I've heard a few horror stories about growing hemp here in Canada. Basically, in a nutshell, your profits are all used up in security. The guy I heard about said it was difficult to determine who was his biggest problem, crop poachers or the bureaucrats he had to deal with. Both were out to lunch, not playing with a full deck.

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CBBC

02-22-2006 19:36:00

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Hugh MacKay again, 02-22-2006 17:16:29

Kelly,
Listen to Hugh. He makes alot of sence.
Grant

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CBBC

02-22-2006 17:11:49

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Hi Kelly,

I'm from out here in BC, land of the gro-op.
Don't be confused with the two products, they are completly different. There probably will be or is a very good market for the industial fiber, unfortunatly it's the wackos are trying to market it, Hemp BC etc.

If there ever was a progressive loby group who could develop a proper market for industrial hemp I believe it would be viable and competative with cotton. However don't be fooled into believing it is a simple way to get rich - thats the other hemp.

On the gro-op front, it is nothing but bad news. The industy is huge, it is in any (probably every) neighborhood and has created a very negative immage of BC. I hate to say it, but prohibition does not work. This is big gang business, being fueled by the demand south of the border( I don't blame anyone here, just stating a fact). The return product is of course illegal guns, cocaine, heroine etc.

I have no idea how to fix the problem, but I want to let you know we are not a bunch of pot heads up here. Come visit some time, we're really quite nice.

Best luck with whatever you decide.
Grant

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Hugh MacKay

02-22-2006 16:53:30

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Kelly: Are you looking for alternative crops to grow. Go to your favourite search engine and type in Switchgrass. I've looked at this a bit several times in as many years. They are claiming it returns more heating energy per input dollar than any other fuel crop. Seems like most of it is being grown in Iowa and Eastern Ontario.

I also knew a guy that built burner to burn whole round bales. It is an upright cylinder, the size of a round bale, and 4 bales high. It is a continuous flow device and it is loaded from the top and burning is a controled burn in the bottom of this tower. I saw this once and my understanding was this operated as a liquid bed gassifier. The builder has since died, I understand his family still operate this structure. I'm having trouble making contact with anyone familiar with this device. All the old guys I knew that worked there have since died. I did get through to a young guy that worked there a few years back, about all he knew, it made smoke and heat. Then his job was operating the round baler.

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jerrycpp

02-22-2006 15:31:20

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

The main reason we (US) are not growing industrial hemp is because of the cotton lobby. If hemp is grown in the U.S. it will cut into the cotton grower's production of natural fibre. Hemp clothing is long wearing and very comfortable, and no doubt would give cotton a run for its money.

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02-22-2006 14:02:55

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Industrial hemp is for rope/fiber- THC content about 1% in WW2, tops and buds about 2% selective pick. DEA says selective smoking plants now about 3-4% THC and special lomg term bred plants now producing 7% (Kona grown) and some BC bud hitting 9%. The proposed laws seem to be a sneaky way of getting the drug plants grown and provideing a legal loophole for the growers. Use old navy seed stock and some thing like tobacco allotment program for mass of fiber and might be workable as in WW2. The other than rope use provisions in proposals are suspect. State grown in California for medicinal use now sort of- but state is not taking specific responsibility and some growers going to federal prison. RN

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RustyFarmall

02-22-2006 11:42:06

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

I read your post earlier and decided to wait for the wackos to answer first, which they have done, and you also recieved some serious answers, which is good. I would think that growing hemp might be a good idea as an alternative crop. We need to break our ties to foreign oil, and since the more modern materials used to make rope are petroleum based maybe we need to take a good look at using hemp again. We are already producing ethanol as a replacement for gasoline, and soy bio-diesel. I think we need to see if we can't cut our ties to plastics and nylons also.

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730 virgil

02-22-2006 15:36:46

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-22-2006 11:42:06

good reply rusty i have heard the fiber wears better than some of the stuff now being used . car seats and furniture lasts longer when hemp fiber is used as foundation . also clothes last longer

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supergrumpy

02-22-2006 08:55:15

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

from what I read in the papers, hemp is a major cash crop in several rural areas and even some urban areas

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Kelly C

02-22-2006 09:00:27

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to supergrumpy, 02-22-2006 08:55:15

I heard that too. I actually ran into a person who caused lots of problems because of doing that when its not leagal.
But I am not talking about that ,but then again if the only reason people are talking about hemp is to find some way to have thier wacy tobbacky and not go to jail. Then thats just a waste of my time and I need to move onto some thing else.

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Andrew from KY

02-22-2006 08:48:42

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

I've always heard that hemp fell out of favor as synthetics replaced it after WWII. I don't see any problem with making it legal except that there will be some genius who thinks he can get by with stickin a few pot plants in with them. Kentucky used to be a big hemp producing state at one time.

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Kelly C

02-22-2006 08:56:08

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Andrew from KY, 02-22-2006 08:48:42

I heard that. Looks like alot of the products made using petrolium as a base, Could also be made from hemp or at one time was.
I may be in favor of it just for that. Any thing that helps us wean off of the Arabs is a good thing.

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Tim B from MA

02-22-2006 08:35:54

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Kelly C, 02-22-2006 08:17:16

Personally I think we should be allowed to grow industrial hemp in reasonable quantities suitable for personal use. Tying cargo in pick-up beds, tree climbing, lines for a boat, I always wanted traditional boat fenders made of hemp, tying up the kids when the get out of hand, tying ourselves into our tractor seats, etc.

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KRUSS

02-22-2006 09:39:21

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to Tim B from MA, 02-22-2006 08:35:54

There is a group of hemp growers at Dauphin, Manitoba. I guess it has potential as a fibre crop, an oilseed and a nutreucutical (spelling?). I have seen a few fields. It grows about 8 feet tall with good agronomic practices. Harvest is very difficult for both seed and fibre. Marketing the end products has still been difficult to date. The hemp growers have not given up yet, in spite of more failures than successes.

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Lloyd Llama

02-22-2006 16:45:58

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to KRUSS, 02-22-2006 09:39:21

Even if it's industrial grade, bet they get a lot of volunteers to help harvest, especially after midnight!

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Kelly C

02-22-2006 09:47:38

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Re: OT: Industrial Hemp Production. in reply to KRUSS, 02-22-2006 09:39:21

Thank you. Thats good info to hear. I get real suspicius when I see Woddy Harelson as a spokesman. He is a wacko in my book and I think he is just using this issue as a way to get his drugs legal.
Then I see others talking about it that seem respectable to me and they think its a good idea.
Just dont know enough about it yet.

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