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how do you explain it to them?????

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phil lowe

02-27-2006 15:26:50




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OK boy's ,,n girls need your years of marital help ,,,,,
coming home from a winter weekend away and I decided to try and find the local tractor junkyard to show my wife of 6 months the "gear" that I need to get for working this small piece of land we have ,,,bout 1 hour from our house ..
Well she wasn't much impressed with all the OLD junk the guy had laying around..But I tried to show her a plow and disc and harrows that I am looking at purchasing ,,,welll SHE blew up and started asking why I needed to spend thousands of dollars on equipment that I would only use once a year and we don't go down to the land often enough to have a "Garden " etc and what was I gonna plant etc etc ...Can't explain in words what it is I want to do ,,partically cause I was "trying" to maintain my cool...usually quite difficult in these situations .
I've spent $4500 for a tractor with blade for snow removal and a bushhog for thee heavier clearing and a woods winch to clean up my present yard from a hurrecane,,and JUST cause I want to work the small piece of land we have ,,,hell I don't know what I want to plant ,,just know I DO ,,,,try explaining that to a city girl ....
I pay all my bills and save for retirement and like most folks running the credit up more then I should some months ,,but I've a steady job that keeps the bankers off my back..andwhen I get a few hours overtime I will but a new tool box ,,,or part for the old tractor or what have you ,,But I'm being told I don't discuss my purchases with her first ,,,well after trying to show her first and explain ,,,I dont' think I'll be doing that again ,,,,I was ready to put the old tractor up for sale by the time we drove an hour in silence ,,,,,then let her look after getting rid of the snow /trees and 7 acres of grass and shrubs...Did I ask a question yet ????any advise ????? ?

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Dave NE IA

02-28-2006 21:38:17




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
My mom and dad got into a argument, Dad said how bout you don't see me for a while. Mom said that would be just fine with her---- so after a week she could see him just a little bit out of one eye. Just kidding for crying out loud. I will say this much you never realy get to know a woman till you look her right in the eye. (in a divorce court) Thinking of buying old iron? Should have been thinking 6 months ago. Just jerking your chain again. Seriously I would strongly suggest teling her right up front how you feel about it all, tackfull is important and not when you are mad at each other or upset. If you can't talk to her, either you or her will eventualy look for someone to talk to. Sorry guy but this is on both your backs, and I certianly hope for your best. If you can't reason with her now what makes you think it will get better, having children, vacation, new car for her---I will say hell no you are kidding yourself, as none of that is important any more than your old iron is realy important. Favors for favors is redunted, do it for her not because you are demanded too. Just because you want to. If your gut feeling is that it will never be a two way street, listen to your belly button--I refer to it as the truth button because it is usually telling your stomach the truth. Perhaps try to figure out if this is a finance issue or a power issue. No one on the whole internet is going to know the answer to that question other than the man who made the original post. Best of luck Dave NE IA

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cj3b_jeep

02-28-2006 08:05:12




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
It costs me quite a bit more, but every time I buy a new "toy" like the FEL I bought last month, something must happen for her. Example: Buying a front end loader = I had to make a new set of drawers for the kitchen and install them. I bought a plow 3 weeks ago= we have to paint the bathrooms.

What I've found out in my 5 years of bliss is that's it's a very serious give and take between the two of you. My wife is good about not getting mad about the things I buy, as long as they serve a good purpose. Here's a good example. I bought the front end loader to help move dirt, rocks and firewood. Which makes life easier for both of us. I have not bought the .44 mag pistol with a red dot scope I'd like to have for deer season as this only helps me. Both are toys, but one has benefits for both of us.

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frankiee

02-28-2006 07:34:50




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
I find that a relationship must be 8 hours of work a day. If you have to think 8 hours a day of why you have to make a business decision than I think that dissicion will be a sound one.
Women in my life act as devils advocates. The initial responce is usually against me. It is up to me to go thru all the points of why I should do that. Sorta like living with your banker. I find I do better with a woman
I hear that behind every great man that there is a great woman. I believe that.
It takes a lot of work, knowledge, and patience to reach synergy (combined ideas are better then any 1 persons could be)with a partner. But if you can reach synergy, then that person will be the sole person in this world that can take you to anyplace in this world you want to go.
But mark my words, you have to put into the growth of that relationship and not stop ever.
Sort a like going to the university of life and love. Keep up the homework and you will do fine.

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RAB

02-27-2006 23:19:42




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
In addition to Blue Guy"s 3 rings, I was always told the order of the wedding service was: Aisle - Alter - Hymn

Regards, RAB



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Shaggy

02-27-2006 21:48:51




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
I tried to sneak home a Super C farmall 2 weeks ago and got BUSTED on main street in front of a Buddies house! But she is alright with it now??
She was pretty cool with everything until she had the BABY 10 months ago and then she lost her sense of humor. (The BABY is a GOOD thing!!)
So as far as explaining things you can't in some cases that is.
I am learning everyday.



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Blue guy

02-27-2006 21:43:16




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 Marriage is like a three ring circus! in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Welcome to what I like to call marital bliss.:-)

A friend of mine told me marriage is like a three ring circus.
1ST comes the engagement ring.
2ND comes the wedding ring.
3RD comes the suffer ring.

Damn thats funny every time I here it.:-)



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R.J.

02-27-2006 21:24:10




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Can`t give any advice with the wife, but can tell you been mairred to same woman for 53 years.
She does what she wants and do what I want and no problems yet. So I know it can work good luck.



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R.J.

02-27-2006 21:18:25




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Can`t give any advice with the wife, but can tell you been mairred to same woman for 53 years.
She does what she wants and do what I want and no problems yet. So I know it can work good luck.



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Old Pokey

02-27-2006 20:47:49




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 Have Allans wife talk to her...... in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
outta git things squared up rite quick like.:-)



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hayray

02-27-2006 19:41:12




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
That is why I never got married or had kids, way too expensive, I want to farm, not get a factory job which would make me more money.



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JD9295

02-27-2006 19:39:59




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
My EX was the same way Phil. Got rid of her after 15 years of blisful he!!.
One Ive got now doesnt understand everything that needs to be done here on the farm, but the upside is, she realizes that I do. So like today when I told her I looked at a new baler, even though she knows Im trading trucks soon she didnt blow up. We both have good jobs and i run the family farm now, at least dad and grandpa let me think that.

Maybe like some of the guys said, if she is like that now (?) who knows. I say let her in on the decisions but make sure she understands your not just blowing money

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RodInNS

02-27-2006 19:27:56




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Hey Phil,

Can't help ya with the woman. Gotta figure that one out yourself.
However, I'm willing to bet that if you wait until the second Saturday in April, you'll find all that stuff you were looking at and more at an auction, and will probably sell for about 1/2 what he was asking... Just watch the Herald to confirm the date.....

Rod



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retired farmer

02-27-2006 18:13:31




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
GET RID OF HER AS QUICK AS YOU CAN! You will save yourself a lot of headaches on down the road. I speak from experience. I had one like that for thirty years and most of it was pure H--L. She finally left and took half of what I had worked years for. If I had known she was going to leave, I would have divorced her sooner and saved myself all those years of grief, and probably would be a whole lot richer. After she left I wandered around for awhile and then decided to get rid of almost all the rest of the stuff I had. Now all I have is a few tools, a motor home that doesn't run, a car and a pickup and one VERY SWEET little girl that I met on the Internet. Couldn't be happier I guess.

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RN

02-27-2006 17:59:51




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
For a year give her 10% of paycheck, you set aside another 10% for yourself, household stuff discuss and keep a ledger/notebook. At end of year total up household spending and compare personal spending results. If she takes 10% and invests 5-8% in savings, etc and a little in personal items she should handle household. If she blows it on smoking and drinking she can't complain about tractors and equipment. If she blows more than her personal money and dips into household- (bought something with joint houshold money, return item for money to buy smoking material) then you find another wife or at least get rid of this one. RN.

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Stan(PA)

02-27-2006 17:13:50




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Wife asked me, "Why do you need another tractor?" I said,"I know, I should just go to the bar and spend my money like the other guys do."
Wife said,"Well, it does look like it"s in pretty nice shape."
We have been married 28 years, and she still thinks I"m crazy, but we still get along.



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married 25+ years

02-27-2006 17:08:39




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
You said below that you showed her your paycheck.

How is it that you two have been married for six months and she didn't even know how much you make??? No wonder she's scared.

You need to open up with her, talk about things you both want, decide how much each of you can spend on toys, savings, etc. She should have as much input into a decision to buy something as you do.



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Tom in TN

02-27-2006 16:28:19




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Phil,

At the risk of sounding "preachey", here's my opinion. Marriage is a 0% / 0% proposition. Each partner in a marriage has to be willing to give up everything for the benefit of the other partner. I dedicated myself to my wife when I proposed marriage to her 43 years ago. She is the most important person in my life. There is nothing that I wouldn't give, give-up, quit, start, or continue for her. Guess what. She feels and does the same for me.

If I were you, I'd sell anything that irritates her. I'd quit doing anything she doesn't want me to do. I'd elevate her to a pedestal and continually show my love for her. You will find a fulfilling, gratifying life of giving and receiving if you'll determine to forget yourself and live for her. In no time at all, she'll feel the same way about you.

Good luck,

Tom in TN

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TimS

02-28-2006 10:57:07




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Tom in TN, 02-27-2006 16:28:19  
Tom in TN I am glad you have a good wife that appreciates you giving up everything you like and putting her on a pedestal and she returns that to you..... .

But.....

Be cautious, I was married to a woman I did this to, the way ours turned out was she got everything she wanted, I gave up doing and having everything she didn't like, she was on a pedestal, I might as well have lived in the septic tank, as my life was crap.

I divorced her after finding out she cheated on me a second time ( that I know of ), I had warned her after the first time I will forgive you once, don't do it again as I won't tolerate it twice.

So....before you put your faith and love and start sacrificing yourself and putting women on pedestals....be damn sure they are worth it and will treat you the same in return.

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Glenn F.

02-28-2006 04:46:13




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Tom in TN, 02-27-2006 16:28:19  
Tom, you nailed it right on the head. There is nothing I can add to what you said. Glenn F.



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Nebraska Cowman

02-27-2006 16:20:28




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
I have lots of older friends that have been married 50+ years. I ask them the secret, (I'm still single but want to be prepared just in case) Their answer is always the same..."Just be quiet" Say "yes, dear" if a reply is nessasary.



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Bus Driver

02-27-2006 16:15:30




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
I realize that you feel she is cramping your style right now. If the items are priced so that you could resell them for the same or more later, that might be an approach for you to explore with her. But I do want to say that a tight-fisted woman will be far better for you for the long run. My wife can make a dollar do more than anyone else I know. We once were poor. One does not get rich by spending like crazy. One gets rich by saving like crazy. We are no longer poor.

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Luke S

02-27-2006 15:42:16




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Only married 6 months and she's getting like that all ready? Man I fell sorry for you. Maybe should have dated a little longer. My wife is supportive of my weekend warrior farming and there are times when I get out of hand on buying things and need to be brought back to earth but she stays out of it. She like dabling in it to and tells me to do whatever I think I should do. I guess I am lucky.

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phil lowe

02-27-2006 15:50:56




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Luke S, 02-27-2006 15:42:16  
yeah ,,,I gotta straigthen this one out I'm too old (40)to change my ways ,,I'm thinking she's scared casue her last man went bankrupt and kept his spending to himself ,,,but I showed her my pay cheque today and I but 12% away so I can't touch it and I make 4 times what she does ,,,She is not used to flipping $500 bucks without blinking ,,,BUT ONLY ON A GOOD PLOW!!!!she doesnt realize I saved us $500 bucks last week fixing the pressure tank and washer myself !!!!

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Mike M

02-27-2006 18:51:16




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:50:56  
If her last man went bankrupt , maybe it wasn't all his fault she may of helped him get there faster !



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farmerboy

02-27-2006 15:39:39




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Yeah, I tried returning with "you buy clothes, jewelery, cosmetics, etc. and don't explain it all to me, get off my back." I wouldn't recommend that track.



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Greg_Ky

02-27-2006 15:35:00




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to phil lowe, 02-27-2006 15:26:50  
Definition of wedding: Funeral for a man who was free to make his own decisions



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Bob

02-27-2006 19:15:20




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Greg_Ky, 02-27-2006 15:35:00  
And...

Marriage is an institution... and who wants to be in an institution????



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Abe Froman

02-27-2006 16:22:34




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Greg_Ky, 02-27-2006 15:35:00  
Sorry, but it took awhile to stop laughing. I hear this sort of thing all the time and have learned to ignore it. Like, why do you need a new truck? You just got one. I don't even bother to explain to her that it is now 10 years old.

Best advice I can give you is to keep your balls between your legs, not in her pocket. If you give them up now you have a long road ahead of you.



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Harley

02-27-2006 16:16:25




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Greg_Ky, 02-27-2006 15:35:00  
Point out to her that if you didn't have that equipment to work with you'd probably spend a lot more time at the local adult entertainment center and which would she like more? Probably better ask from across the room though, and you can give my name as a reference, cause she don't know me. Remember, I'm pulling for ya, cause I've been through two already and we're all in this together. Harley

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Dog's Friend

02-27-2006 16:31:02




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Harley, 02-27-2006 16:16:25  
Been married 31 years and she hasn't killed me in my sleep ... yet.

One piece of advice I'll offer, the "Married Man's Maxim"

"It is easier to get forgivness then permission."

Buy your gear and things will sort themselves out.

-Dog's Friend



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Ken Macfarlane

02-28-2006 06:56:41




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 Re: how do you explain it to them????? in reply to Dog's Friend, 02-27-2006 16:31:02  
Been with my wife 6.5 years and we tried to ask about every purchase thing. We now have it at if its over 100$ tell me about it rule.

It took quite a bit of talk to get to buying a nearly new tractor a year ago but we are both happy about it now. She was very upset at first but we talked about what it would be good for, I'd spend less time fixing the old one, it was easier for her to drive etc.

She's not as keen as me on the haying but does pitch in and enjoys the work and being outside.

I think as long as she sees it as a hobby and you explain that you aren't going to sneak purchases by her until you're bankrupt it should be ok.

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