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rboulware

03-09-2006 09:38:55




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I am reading lot of people on here haveing to fix the power shift Transmisions on these things. What is the deal with this? Is this a week spot on these tractors?
I actually like ALOT of good qualities on this machine but I want to be carefull before I buy. I know of one for sale it is $6300.00 delivered here that has about 5,000 hours on it. Like I said I REALLY like these nachines, but the Transmision really SCARES me. What do you guys think?

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rboulware

03-10-2006 10:14:10




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
I would like to extend my gratitude for everyone experiance and help here. I will keep everyone informed as to what I actually buy. Heck, it will even suprise me as well.

One thing I have to say the Bush hog was delivered today. Bush Hog brand model 406. It is supposed to cut up to 4 inch material.



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Bison

03-09-2006 19:40:14




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
The main thing I don,t like with these powershifts in these case,s is that it is allmost impossible to feather the clutch. They always take a mighty jump if you try to hook on to an implement or load or unload a hay trailer with the frontend ldr



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kyhayman

03-09-2006 18:44:29




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
They are good tractors, and good transmissions, but they cost a fortune to repair. Probably not unreasonable if you do it yourself, but those are big tractors. Then there is the whole cleanliness issue with a hydraulic shift transmission.

Dealership priced me $4800 for a simple rebuild on one I used to have. Said that most ran in the $6500 range.



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c hess

03-09-2006 18:28:01




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
Learn how they work - drive them correctly as cant use my name said an they are as good or better than most , Had 1070 with over7000hrs with no trouble an have 2390 4600hrs no trouble. Forgot we used 1070 on silo blower an some one had it in reverse an over heated shim at rear an had to take apart an did job our self .



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Can't even use my name

03-09-2006 16:18:22




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
I really wouldn't worry about it myself. Then again I can take one out and rebuild it myself. We have run Case powershifts for as long as I can remember (I'm 26 now). Been through 6 1070's with three still in use. Only two had a tranny problems, one was just plain wore out with over 5000 hours. Used that tractor to pull a 6 bottom Case moldboard so really that doesn't seem too bad. The other just last year with 3000 hours sheared the 6 3/8 bolts that hold the clutch pack together, all else in there was fine.Have two 1270's and only one was split with 3000 hours. Did the same thing the 1070 did, sheared off the 3/8 bolts. Got a clutch pack from a 94 series and put 1/2 bolts in her, used for planting so she does a lot of shifting! Never have that problem again. Other 1270 has over 12000 hours of hard hard use. Third motor but original powershift. And we have a 2390 (my personal tractor) with 6600 hours and has the original motor and powershift. So I'd say that in our experience those powershifts are pretty darn tough. Just change the oil and filters and let them warm up before jamming gears.

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JDknut

03-10-2006 15:52:14




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to Can't even use my name, 03-09-2006 16:18:22  
Been thru six of 'em and you're only 26? I thought they held up better than that. :-)



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Can't even use my name

03-10-2006 16:47:48




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to JDknut, 03-10-2006 15:52:14  
Yeah that does sound bad but those other three we don't still have were in use while I was a wee lil fella. One busted the crank and another just plain wore out the rearend. The third was traded for the larger 1270.



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Andrew from KY

03-09-2006 13:43:11




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
I have to disagree, I really like the Case powershift. True it is the weakest point of a Case tractor and it's no Quad Range, but compare the Case to everything else that was available at the time, and in the same price range. Oliver/White had the over/under, IH had a TA, and Allis was having problems with their powershifts in the 7000 series.



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JMS/MN

03-09-2006 12:21:11




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
Check my post to you below regarding PS 70 series.



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Specter

03-09-2006 09:49:22




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:38:55  
Last spring, I spent 7 weeks as a work experience student at the local Case-IH dealership. From what I saw and heard there, Case and powershift do not go together. We had, oh, probably at least six 970's and 1070's in for powershift rebuilds, and about the same number of 2090's and 2290's. Compare that to only ONE standard transmission 970, which was in for a clutch. I'd advise you to beware the Case powershifts, but if you can find one with a standard, in good shape, go for it. A 970 or 1070 with a standard is a nearly bullet-proof tractor.

Specter

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rboulware

03-09-2006 09:55:32




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to Specter, 03-09-2006 09:49:22  
Thank you SOO much Spector, I will stay away from the Power Shift Case. It seems the Case 1070 with the standard Transmision is hard to find.



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JDknut

03-09-2006 15:41:18




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:55:32  
When it comes to good reliable power shifts that stay together, John Deere wrote the book. Others who came along later with good powershifts read Deere's book.



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Hurst

03-09-2006 19:43:59




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to JDknut, 03-09-2006 15:41:18  
Deere never wrote any book on powershifts. Their powershifts are based off the ford Selectospeeds, which were reliable for the most part, some of the early ones had some glitches, but that was all. Ford wrote the book on full powershifts, and deere just edited the book some. All powershifts come from how auto trannies are designed, they are not any different except they shift on command, not automatically. Thats how I see it and have heard it.

Hurst

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JDknut

03-10-2006 16:02:40




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to Hurst, 03-09-2006 19:43:59  
Maybe I should have worded it differently: Deere wrote the book on successful power shifts for larger ag tractors. Ford had their Select O speed only in smaller tractors and it was not very successful at that time. By the time Ford had improved it they had practically redesigned it and by then, the Deere power shift had been out a while.



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comfortking

03-09-2006 18:46:49




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to JDknut, 03-09-2006 15:41:18  
I beg to differ. We had a 4430 that had the power shift out of it three times in the first 1200 hours. Traded it on an 8430 and the left rear final fell out of it ithe first 50 hours. the 8430 dropped the quad range every 500 hours or so. A lot of 1070 - 1570s still running on first unit in our area.



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JDknut

03-10-2006 16:10:24




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to comfortking, 03-09-2006 18:46:49  
I wrote a long reply but the site crashed, lost it, don't have the heart and fingers to do it again. you have a good point, you must have had bad Deeres, they are usually better than that.



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Specter

03-09-2006 12:39:55




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 Re: 1070 case in reply to rboulware, 03-09-2006 09:55:32  
Yeah, they can be tough to find. That was about the time that standards started to disappear. After all, why get a plain old 8-speed standard when you can get a 12 speed shift-on-the-run powershift transmission? However, what standard transmissions there were on the market were just about the most indestructable transmissions I've ever seen, as long as you took care of them. The powershifts of that time could still be rather tempermental, or at least the Case ones were.

Just take my family's Ford 6600 for example. We bought it as an ex-government loader tractor about 10 years ago. It was beat to death and half worn out. The loader is on the sloppy side, and the front axle/steering components are nearing the trouble point. Still, the engine and the 8-speed standard were as tight and strong as ever. It still does chores every day, year after year.

Specter

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