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LumbrJakMan

03-17-2006 09:37:28




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I recently started my Own Business here in Southern New Hampshire. Its a Landscape Construction business. I have a small Excavator , Tractor , I do Bush Hogging ,loam spreading,roto tilling, york raking, etc. I am considering adding Lawn Maintenance for this year. I need some input on Zero Turn mowers. Do any of you here OWN ONE ? Do you have Models you dont like ? Models you do like ? Any Info I have got at this website has been very good. I would appreciate any you may have on this subject. Thanks in advance !!

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davpal

03-18-2006 21:57:45




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I see a lot of people here hyping their brand of mower but nobody really telling him what he wanted to know. If you are going to run a commercial mowing business you are going to need a zrt mower to be competitive with the competition. The mowers have good points and bad points and they all need to be gone over. First the good points, the speed , agility and the ability to mow around trees and poles, nice riding position is easy on your back for many more hours than a regular tractor, very realiable and built very heavy duty, purpose built for mowing and very good at it. Do a fine job too. Now the bad points, very loud machines and the motor is right behind you, use earplugs, they are sometimes almost too fast and dangerous, you can really come up on an obstacle very fast and get hurt, they can tear up the ground when you turn around because they are very heavy and the zrt feature makes them more prone to it, especially if it is wet out, you should have a ROP protection because if they tip over you are almost certainly dead, they do not cope with hills very well, they are heavy and tend to slide if the grass is wet, usually right into a pond or ditch, they can use a lot of gas because of the high horsepower, and because of the speed if you hit something like the barn, trees, car, you can really wreck stuff fast. My best advice is to keep a traditional tractor type mower and a push mower for the tricky stuff and use the zrt for the wide open flat spaces and for around the trees. I have a 52 inch toro commercial zrt with a kohler 23 horse in it and I love it but you have to respect the limitations. You are going to love your zrt, just be careful on it. Later.

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Darin in Nebraska

03-18-2006 09:40:19




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I was raised in the town where they build the Exmark mowers, Encore and Husqvarna lawn mowers. I have a cousin that has a Exmark and loves it. They can't build them things fast enough. Exmark is a really good brand and dependable. I wouldn't be afraid to buy an Exmark. I guess I would also look at what you can get parts for if needed. Just my two cents.



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Luke S

03-18-2006 07:16:06




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I have a Kubota ZD21 with a 60" deck. It has a diesel engine and it is a heck of a machine. I like the Kubota because it is all made by Kubota, if I wanted a kawasaki, or a briggs and stratton I'd buy one. But I don't, I want a machine that all the pats are made by one company. I have had excellent luck with my Kubota machine's and would recomend them over anything.



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Roy Suomi

03-17-2006 20:13:40




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Well , I might as well put in my 2 cents worth..I've got an Encore Z-48 . I've had my Encore for about 9 years now, and replaced the idler pulley and belt on the mower deck.. Thats it..... ....Other than regular oil / filter changes and grease..I don't have a massive lawn , about an acre and a half or so.. I'm tickled...



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Lumpy

03-17-2006 19:41:22




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I got a Country Clipper. 25 hp, 60 inch cut, joy stick control. Awesome machine! Cut my mowing time in half. Made in southern Iowa. countryclipper.com



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Shovelman

03-17-2006 17:51:31




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I have a 61 inch Bob Cat with the 23 HP Kawasaki twin. It has about 400 hours on it now, with absolutely no problems. Routine oil changes, blades, etc. and thats it. Great machine, cuts wet grass without clumping and leaves a smooth finish. Very pleased.



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JohnDeereGreen

03-17-2006 16:54:31




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Yep, I gotts me one for my lawn care business, too. It's a Cub Cadet Commercial M48H, which is a 48 inch deck and 20 HP Honda engine. Love it, and couldn't mow again without one. They're like tractors: once ya start, you can't quit using them. Just make real shore ya gotts good hearing protection-- I ran mine the entire first year for 100 M/L hours with no hearing protection, but I got smart last year. They're real loud. Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do. JohnDeereGreen

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KEH

03-17-2006 15:33:16




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  

I got a Dixie Chopper last year and love it. Made from off the shelf parts, no strange and expensive filters, etc. All ZTR mowers I have seen make a lot of noise, so you need ear protection. Whatever mower you look at, examine the cutting deck and be sure it is made from thick steel. Sit on the mower and check for comfort. Not all are equal in this respect. If possible drive it. ZTRs are to lawn mowing what disc mowers are to hay cutting, much more speed.

KEH

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Dave Sherburne

03-18-2006 07:35:11




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to KEH, 03-17-2006 15:33:16  
Dixie Chopper, fastest mower in the world,
stainless deck Check out their website.



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geomow

03-17-2006 14:53:32




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I have had a few and operated a few more. The Woods(older grasshopper) are reliable had 4 of them 48 inch to 72 inch with briggs to Kubota diesel but they don't fit me very well. I am kinda large. Didn't like the front mount decks. would be ok if you mowed mostly flat and open areas.

Have 2 older commericial Snappers 48 inch and 60 inch mid mounts. Like the joy stick control. Leave one hand free to pick up trash (litter getter) and wave at the girls (when wifes not watching). They are fairly reliable easy to work on but hate the swivel front axle.

Have a Zipper 60 inch cut. No comments. Just keep it at home to mow yard. Use the head lights on it to mow at night some of the time.

Use a Scag Turf Sabre Tiger 61 inch cut. Like it a lot. Has 22 horse Cowasaki water cooled. Must keep eye on temp gauge and keep radiator screen clean a few times a day. We use it and a Grasshopper mid mount with Kubota 30 hp gas engine. Nice machine, like the screen set up in front of radiator alot. I don't fit on it very well either. Need 6 inch shorter legs.

Had a Scag 48 inch cut. Helped rebuild it and now wife's brother in law uses it around his house. He likes it alot. He put a headlight on it because he has to mow his yard at night most of the time.

Had a older Scag 60 cut. Didn't like it. Sold it to a guy I didn't like and still don't.

Helped my brother in law buy a Dixe Chopper 60 inch cut. Need racing goggles on when you drive this one. It is quick and fast. It is up in Mo. country and still going strong.

I like the Hustlers for their simple design but haven't owned on yet.

If you are going to use one in a business or do some major mowing, might want to keep these thoughts in mind. The machine should be able to mow non stop for 6 hours with out refueling. All belts should be taking on and off with out tools. Might want to stay with mid mounts for getting it tight places and dealing with steep slopes. The engine should have easy access. Not buried down in the machine with sheet metal around it. Rigid front casters. Makes them easier to mow over curbs and helps climbing over curbs as well. Should be able to grease and service machine with out having to use tools to remove body parts or sheet metal. Might want to consider mounting headlights on your mower so that you can keep on mowing after the sun goes down.

We don't mow a lot but we do mow about 40 to 50 acres a week on our machines plus what I use at home and the shop.

Good luck on finding one you like.

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jlmtractor

03-17-2006 12:36:42




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
i dont own one but i would like to buy one but i look at them quite a bit and i would reccomend one of the husquvarnas or a john deere they seem the toughest ones on the market but hey they cost alot



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jerrycpp

03-17-2006 12:32:07




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I have a Walker GHS - that stands for Grass Handling System. It is zero turn, and has a hopper on the back. I love it! Check out thier web site - just type in Walker Mower on your search engine.



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dbear

03-17-2006 11:54:51




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Let me throw Scag into the mix for two reasons: (1) They make a beast of a machine; and (2) My local dealer is great (major reason I wouldn't consider a Grasshopper, Kubota, or Exmark)!



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evilboweviel

03-17-2006 11:15:36




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Ferris with their independent suspension will not beat you up like the others will
Ron



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26Red

03-17-2006 11:06:16




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Also- check out the different decks you can get- they have new ones that specialize for tall grass. I have a 72" deck, and my yard is fairly flat...but if you have hilly ground you'll want to step down to 52" or 62".



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steve in in

03-17-2006 10:48:17




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I have a Dixie Chopper made here in Indiana. I have about 160 hours on it. The only problem has been with a valve sticking on the Kohler motor. It usually unsticks itself though.

I would certainly buy another Dixie if I needed to. At the rate I use mine though, it should last a lifetime.



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Richard H.

03-17-2006 15:29:27




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to steve in in, 03-17-2006 10:48:17  
We have had one at our campground for 8 years now. Fast, Lean, Mean cuttin machine. Richard



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Hurst

03-17-2006 10:36:37




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
We have a woods mowing machine 6215, which has the 22 hp kubota diesel. It has a 52 inch deck and is a good mower, but not very well suited for a farm, it is more for the type of use you are talking about. Woods parts are also very expensive in some cases. If we get another zero turn mower, it will be a dixie chopper. I really like the way they are built, very heavy and very simple. There is a guy at home that does lawn care and traded in his x mark for a dixie chopper, and it leaves a cut just as clean or cleaner, and also, they can mow a lot faster. I still like the old ford cm222, but I think if I had a zero turn with rear wheel drive instead of the front wheel drive I would like a zero turn better. The ford does have teh best cutting of any mower I have seen since we put on a 6 ft deck. It is a little underpowered for that deck however... Good luck

Hurst

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Randy_NE

03-17-2006 10:33:51




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Exmark mowers are made right here in Nebraska.



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Marv

03-17-2006 10:30:57




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I've had a John Deere 737 ZTRAK for two seasons and I really like it. It really shines when mowing around trees and buildings. Mowing time has been reduced also compared to my old JD 318 mower. Great mower!!!



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Steven@AZ

03-17-2006 10:30:33




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
Ran a Grasshopper a couple years back and really enjoyed it. Built very well and did a nice job of cutting. I believe it had a Kubota gas engine, they are also available with diesels.

Grasshopper Mowers



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spitz

03-17-2006 10:08:52




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 Re: Zero Turn Mowers in reply to LumbrJakMan, 03-17-2006 09:37:28  
I have two kubota front mount mowers (f2400, and 2560) and I havent seen anything that will keep up with them yet. They are durable and easy on fuel. I love them for my landscaping biz!



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