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Speaking Of Windmills...

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in-too-deep

04-06-2006 14:59:25




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There's an old abandoned farm I visit every so often and it has a windmill. All the blades are there and the pitman arm, if thats what you call it. It was turning one day with the arm going up and down and I got to thinking. What are some modern uses for that power? I imagine I would put in an electric well pump, so pumping water is out. My dad and I were brainstorming and we couldnt really think of any good uses for reciprocal motion like that. Any ideas?

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Bill WI

04-07-2006 09:21:14




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Really don't know what your intensions are, but keep in mind abandonded farms ARE owned by someone, even if by the county. You really don't know the owners intensions.



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in-to-deep

04-07-2006 12:50:08




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to Bill WI , 04-07-2006 09:21:14  
No, I understand that completely. I just enjoy the old place is all. I don't really think taking a short walk around the property is really going to land me in jail either. I was asking about wind power just on a whim, not like I'm going to move onto the place out of the blue : )



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Bill WI

04-08-2006 07:35:24




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-to-deep, 04-07-2006 12:50:08  
Great, glad to hear that. There are some home built units that look interesting on the net. I think we're in for an awakening on energy.



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davpal

04-06-2006 22:49:53




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
We had a guy here in Michigan that had a wind generator up on a hundred foot tower and he used to generate power for his house and sell some of the reserve to consumers. It was up there in the prevailing winds and it was always turning when I went by it. This was back in the 70,s and 80,s when gas was 59 cents a gallon and diesel was cheap too. I think people used to think he was a little off. Maybe he was just ahead of his time. Now that gas is $2.79 a gallon and diesel is $3.00 this kind of technology is going to have to be looked at really hard again and put into use. I think the wind blowing is gods way of telling us, "hey stupid, build a wind turbine". For all the money we are sending to saudi arabia we could afford to build some too. Later people.

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Mark - IN.

04-06-2006 19:34:02




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Big, tall, wind powered drill press.

No, actually are still widely used in our area by the Amish mostly. But with fuel costs going up to run them power plants, I can see them coming back for water and remote power. They aint cheap though, and that don't include the drilling for water either. If it works and is in good shape, they go for a couple $ grand around me, and have to disassemble and move it yourself.

Mark

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Leroy

04-06-2006 18:00:16




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
There are complete new windmills made today for water pumping and a lot being sold as about every Amish farm will have one and with the wheel you do not use a pumpjack, the sucker rod from top of tower hooks direct to sucker rod of pump. A pump jack is used when there is no wind to power the wheel with a gas engine or electric motor. There is a place in Indiana that has dozens of the mills restord and in operating condition. and they have made a unit to lay the tower over to haul and then set it back up again without ever removing a bolt.

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Rauville

04-06-2006 18:00:14




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Find yourself an old dash butter churn, and enjoy the fruits of your labor (if you have a cow).
Actually pumping water isn't a bad option if you ever experience extended power outages. This winter, after a widespread ice storm here, many area farms / towns were without power for up to 20 days.



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Bill(Wis)

04-06-2006 17:49:30




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Fleet Farm sells a small version in my area. They are used mostly to aerate ponds.



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Allan In NE

04-06-2006 16:36:21




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
They work really great for waterin' cattle in remote areas.

Mine has been replaced with a pump jack tho. Probably was cheaper than fixin' the windmill.

Allan

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Harley

04-06-2006 20:59:34




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to Allan In NE, 04-06-2006 16:36:21  
We had two of them on the farm up in Iowa, but had to take one down as there wasn"t enough wind to turn them both. Gadunk chshshshshshshshsh
Harley



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mjbrown

04-06-2006 17:36:11




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to Allan In NE, 04-06-2006 16:36:21  
Kind of makes ya wanna go swimmin' nekid. ;-)



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pete43323

04-06-2006 16:11:58




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
redoing one here myself,,,,,plan to put it up at our show site,,,near garber iowa,,,,, ,,hope to use the up an down motion to power pump jack,,but want the pump jack to have a toy man ,made out of wood,,,,,chopping or sawing or something like that,,i think it will be neat,,,hope i get it all worked out,,,,,



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Dave NE IA

04-07-2006 18:04:58




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to pete43323, 04-06-2006 16:11:58  
Pete you should paint it first, I would suggest silver. Dave NE IA



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Dave NE IA

04-06-2006 15:36:48




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
AERMOTOR is a brand name, and if you research on yahoo they list lots of web sites on many brands including capacitie requirments. I seen advertizments for very low volume feed grinding, and a drag saw. You can order parts for Aermotors if I think the last three didgits on the gear case are 602. You will probably kick the windmill over once you see the prices however. Dave NE IA



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JDnTN

04-06-2006 15:23:40




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Where"s it located? A County Historical Museum is looking for one to restore here in TN. Thanks, JD



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RAB

04-06-2006 15:21:32




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Why reciprocal? That reciprocal was prodced by rotary motion first. Rotational could be an electic generator but that one will be a high density rotor, so relatively slow speed and high torque, so not much use for that application.
Best I can think of, other than a water pump is to see if you can find an oil well under there somewhere.....
Regards, RAB



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Matt Smith

04-06-2006 15:21:22




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
I've seen them used in Kansas for pumping water.



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`Bernie in MA

04-06-2006 15:14:07




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 14:59:25  
Couldn't it be hooked to a crank and be made rotary to turn a generator? Probably too slow.



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Mark - IN.

04-06-2006 19:42:19




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to `Bernie in MA, 04-06-2006 15:14:07  
They make them. Got a neighbor up the road's had one for primary power on his farm since the mid to late '70's. Backs it up with Edison. Thinking about it myself.

Mark



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Mark - IN.

04-06-2006 20:05:43




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 Here, this is better in reply to Mark - IN., 04-06-2006 19:42:19  
Here's something to consider. Pay up front, save over time. Just a possibility.



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in-too-deep

04-06-2006 15:18:22




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to `Bernie in MA, 04-06-2006 15:14:07  
I considered that...but I think the set-up cost would be too great compared to the amount of electricity you could make. I'd imagine rotary motion would be more useful, though.



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37 chief

04-06-2006 15:41:46




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to in-too-deep, 04-06-2006 15:18:22  
Maybe target practice, that is what happened to all the windmills around here in years past. We had one on our place, I wonder what Dad did with it. Stan



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Broomstacker

04-06-2006 17:03:27




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 Re: Speaking Of Windmills... in reply to 37 chief, 04-06-2006 15:41:46  
Not only windmills, but our old family farm in Kansas had a Windcharger. Not sure how much juice they were able to generate, but, as I recall, they had glass storage jars in the cellar they used as batteries. I believe they used it to provide lights; don't think they used it to do any work. I imagine it was DC.



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