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Dave from MN

04-17-2006 05:34:57

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OK sealing the deal on the 5 Simmental, 2 cows, 3 heifers all bred but the youngest, due in fall. I was gonna erect a 8x16 shelter, is this large enough and protctive enough for central MN. What shots and feeding regimen should these adult and young cattle recieve? Any beef cow advice would be greatly appreciated, as It has been 20+ years since I worked with cattle and them were dairy. Would I be better off building a small gambrel( barn like building), menards has a 24'x30'x8' with loft on sale for $9000, Maybe I could use larger ceiling jiost to allow hay storage in the loft, any recommendations on this. I want to have at least what is good for cattle, but no go broke setting up for them?

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edchainsaw

04-17-2006 19:43:29

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

A Cattlemen's journal fell into my hands this winter. This topic was one covered in an article in that mag.

They made the comment that a shelter was not nessissary and could lead to some sickness -- and trampleing...

the tag line of the article was: they are cattle not house plants LOL sound familiar dont it LOL

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R. John Johnson

04-17-2006 15:53:16

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

Cattle are not hot house plants. They need some shelter from the elements, but nothing extravagent. Your biggest problems are in winter. If the cattle are properly bedded, fed and out of direct wind they can handle a lot of cold.

When are you calving? if it is on green grass no shelter for the cows is needed. If calving in spring, a small shelter that only the calves can get into is all that is needed. Most shelters like that in this area are on skids so they can be moved to a fresh site to prevent the outbreak of disease. If you calve like we do when the temps are below freezing you will need a barn big enough to hold a couple of animals until the calves are old enough to go outside. If you calve in weather this cold you must watch your cows closely to prevent calves from freezing when they are born.

After calving the heifers will need proper feed to build up body fat to re-breed. If there is too much competition from older cows for feed, heifers will not breed right away or at all. If nesseccary separate the heifers from the cows after calving.

Consult with your vet for good advise on a vaccination program for your animals.

Hope this helps

John

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Dave from MN

04-17-2006 17:34:23

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to R. John Johnson, 04-17-2006 15:53:16

Thanks for the replies, it all helps. Cow and heifers are due to calve in October. Looks like I will just have to set up and go from there. My biggest hurddle right now is geting up that new fence, corner posts and all.

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John in WI

04-17-2006 12:43:51

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

You might want to take a look at this board. Lots of folks like you (and me) can find tons of cattle information with a quick search or a posted question.

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/index.php

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John (MO)

04-17-2006 12:34:58

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

Chcck our this here sight for plan for all your farm building needs.

Building plans for about anything farm related

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Nebraska Cowman

04-17-2006 06:54:41

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

I agree, all a cow wants is a dry place to lay and protection from the wind. 'course she don't like being soaked with a cold rain but she'll get over it. Whay you will want is a cement pad to feed on and in your area probably a covered feed bunk to keep off the snow.
Feed the cow critter enough so she goes lays down and chews her cud. I read a story once, A man had a horse that was sleek and fat and his neighbor with a skinny horse asked him his secret, He said that "when the horse gets done eating, I take some of the oats out of the feed trouth and rub them on his back" The neighbor replied that his horse "never had any oats left" third party image

Even bad boys are just as good as they can be

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JMS/MN

04-17-2006 06:12:29

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

That's only 25 square feet per animal- plus you said they're PG? Without checking references, I think old recommendations were about 40-50 sf per head. Now you have more building options. Couple of that size portable shelter would be ok, let you slide them to a new spot when manure builds up. Hoop building with more height, versatility- TRACTOR storage as well as animals, etc. Crowding animals just causes problems- stepped on teats and offspring, inadequate ventilation causes pneumonia, etc. Some in our area get by with tall windbreaks, but it's nice to have a small bu8ilding for treating sick ones. (Windbreak with a small shelter attached?)

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Jack-Iowa

04-17-2006 05:58:49

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Re: OT a little/shelter - cattle advice in reply to Dave from MN, 04-17-2006 05:34:57

I do a couple of steers and I have a 8x8 3 sider facing south and they seem to do ok. most times they just lay out in what ever weather.
Think all they really need is a area that has a windbreak and they are ok.
just my 2 cents

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