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37 chief

07-09-2006 00:04:24




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I have a nest of bats in my barn-shop. They are craping all over everything. I had to do something. I got this idea from someone on this sight last year. Park a tractor inside and leave it running with the door closed. It has the same effect as a hose from the tailpipe of a car to the inside with the windows closed. My daughter goes by the barn hears the tractor running, figures out what I am up to. goes home and tells my wife, why I don't know. All my wife thinks is the poor little bats may die. So now my wife is mad at me. Sometines it doesn't pay to get up in the morning. I know bats eat a lot of bugs.They also carry rabies, All I need to happen is a rabid bat to bite one of my Grand Daughters. I guess there will be a few more happy bugs tonight. Stan

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2x4

07-09-2006 22:51:28




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
don"t bother with the shotgun method, you can"t hit "em. I got 1 bat in 25 shots with #9 .410 guage



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37 chief

07-09-2006 08:49:44




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
I went to the barn this morning expecting to see dead bats, just more bat crap on the floor. I have tried moth balls and they don't work. As for the heat method these bats live in the top of the barn where is must get over 100 degrees. It would be very to bat proof a barn over 100 years old. So far looks like the bats are ahead. As for the wife I helped her powder her chickens this morning, so I can sleep in the house tonight. Stan

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GeorgeH

07-10-2006 04:26:36




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 08:49:44  
Just read a article in my paper where a guy was collecting "bat crap" from church belfreys and selling for $2.00 a pound.



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old

07-09-2006 07:56:06




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
In some states it can be a very big fine for killing them here in Missouri theres one breed of them that if you hurt one in any way it can cost you $10,000. Your conservatuion dept should have people that will come in and remove them for you. Bats are good to have around but only if they are in the right place at the right time. Anohter way to get them out and keep them out if for a few days keep the heat up to say 100 or so in your shop, bats like to sleep where its cool and will move out. I have a couple caves on my place so bat never cause me problem they just use the cave

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Hurryin_Hoosier

07-09-2006 07:03:01




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
Most common recommendation is exclusion (blocking openings). Kinda tough in a barn or shed though. They only need a 1/4" to get in.

I have two suggestions, but no guarantees. I know dogs and cats don't care for the odor of mothballs. Keeps them out of the wife's flowerbeds. Might hang a few boxes worth of mothballs in hosiery in the roosting areas.

Bats will not tolerate bright lights in their roosting areas. If you have power to the building, you might try some of those outdoor work lights set up in the loft or area they are frequenting. Even if the mothballs or lights work, they may show back up again next year.

If you decide on a more lethal method, be careful about advertising the fact. Some bats, like the Indiana bat, are a protected species. Might get a visit from the DNR boys if word gets out you've been puttin' stakes into dracula.

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Matt from CT

07-09-2006 06:56:17




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
The rabies issue is simple...if you see a sick bat, don't pick it up with your bare hands.

I like the bats -- I think I'm up to 6 around my place -- three in the "upper" lawn by the house, three in the small "lower" field by the garden. See 3 in each, around dusk. Fascinating to watch the fast little buggers. Don't know where they live -- never seen evidence of 'em in any of my buildings.

That said, if they where poohing in the garage, I'd be looking to exterminate them too.

Too many things today, from this to politics, are done on emotion and not reason.

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RAB

07-09-2006 06:53:59




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
Stan,
If the bats can get in and out, there is prolly more ventilation than enough. You are more likely to set fire to the barn.
As some others say, give them a home where they won"t make a mess. Bats are part of the whole eco-system and need all the help they can get from us to survive. We have already tried to screw up the environment more than we can ever understand.
RAB



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Joe-Bob/IN

07-09-2006 06:26:56




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
Not to say you shouldn't get rid of the bats but it seems to me that only one or two breeds of bats bite and carry rabies.



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37 chief

07-09-2006 13:32:39




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to Joe-Bob/IN, 07-09-2006 06:26:56  
There have already been several cases of rabid bats found in our county this year. Stan



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john in la

07-09-2006 06:47:40




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to John A., 07-09-2006 06:21:41  
Now John A
Not to start some big discussion but to educate you OR me.

How do purple martins replace bats in insect control. A purple martin eats flying insects IN FLIGHT during the day.
A bat eats at night when mosquitoes are out.

You been watching to many movies and yes I am most likely one of those Austin types.



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John A.

07-09-2006 13:20:59




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to john in la, 07-09-2006 06:47:40  
John, Sorry to hear that you are one of those!
I wouldn't begin to speak to insect habits in La. But here at home, In Central Texas, mesquitos and other insecti get to 747 size and they fly all the time, not just at nite. Here at my home...Waste them all for All I care. I live too darn close to Round Rock for my taste, At my sons school in R..R there is a standing rule to NEVER touch or pickup a Bat at anytime. I Do not need any bat loveing advice. LOL
OBTW....Not much on Bat movies, very rarely watch them.
If you like, raise them at your place. I won't say a word at what you and your do over there. Anyway it is just my thoughts,yes there are some benefits to there exixtance just,NIMBY (not in my back yard)
Later,
John A.

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Don LC

07-09-2006 06:14:56




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
Hi guys ---
Does any body have a drawing for building a bat kouse ?....Where do you hang it ?
thanks Don



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john in la

07-09-2006 06:38:23




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to Don LC, 07-09-2006 06:14:56  
You can find several on the net by doing a search or your local ag center may have one. (That’s where I got mine)
Plans

It is about the same as a bird house but with no bottom and landing boards spaced 1" inside. You need to use wood with no chemicals and ruff sawed so they can grip onto the wood and hang.

The hard part is getting them to move in. They are very particular as to where they live because the temp needs to be right. In other words you can hang it from a tree and they will never move in. Then just move it around the tree some so the sun hits it just right and they move in.

Any one that kills bats needs to be eaten alive by mosquitoes.

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Mark - IN.

07-09-2006 06:10:12




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
One of the guys invited some of us over for a cookout after work last night. Has a brand new deck w/racoon poo all over it. Said had racoons w/the old deck, and as had it mostly torn down, was drinking a cup of coffee in the kitchen one morning, looked out the window and saw babie racoons pop their heads out of the debris to take a peek at the world. He new right then what he needed to do, but when the wife found out...he'd "better not", so he didn't. Now has racoon poo all over everywhere because them babies ain't babies anymore, and now they're having babies.

Guess I'd remind the wife and daughter that bats often carry and spread rabies, and ask them if they'd want the sweet, darling, and defenseless grandchildren to have to go through the series of extremely painful rabie shots if they get bitten, if for nothing more than a mandatory precaution. Put it to them in a language that they'll understand and will appeal to their senses..."I wouldn't want to put the grandchildren through that, especially since is completely avoidable". Then I'd remind them both that since you mostly work in the barn, and if you get bitten...DRACULA STAN!!! As a matter of fact, I think that I might go rent an old video of Dracula and make them watch it..."Yep, if his wife and daughter hadn't stopped him from getting them bats out of the barn, Bela Legosi probably would've been a nicer guy" every 10 minutes or so, as they peek through their fingers covering their eyes in horror.

Mark

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John S-B

07-09-2006 04:21:34




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
Maybe you can build some bat boxes and get them to move into those somehow. That might get you out of the doghouse...maybe.



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coup

07-09-2006 01:44:48




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to 37 chief, 07-09-2006 00:04:24  
covert opperations!!!!! !!!!!



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Harley

07-09-2006 06:03:27




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to coup, 07-09-2006 01:44:48  
Hey chief, you must really be raking it in to be able to let a motor run with $3.00 gas. Good luck on the vermin, Harley



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MN Bob

07-09-2006 18:28:42




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 Re: In the dog house in reply to Harley, 07-09-2006 06:03:27  
Seems like a bat house on the side of the barn would attract them, then in daylite, close it up, haul them to a remote stretch of river, no no, express ship them to LA. That ought to do it. Good luck, Bob



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