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lucy

07-11-2006 13:51:36




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i have a 6600 ford tractor. the battery will die in 48 hours if left alone. i think the wiring has something to do with it. i have disconnected the back lights and its still losing juice. i tried to check the fuses but they are not labled. i can charge the battery and it will last a little while. i do not know much about it but am willing to learn if someone can help me.does anyone have a wiring list of which fuse is for what and can i disconnect all wires except the starter and battery without causing to much trouble i need help fast

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RodInNS

07-12-2006 05:31:35




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
The 6600 should have a Motorolla alternator...
The exide batteries in those tractors are noted for giving 5 years or less service, particulairly if they've been run down, or overcharged due to a poor charging system. First thing to check is if the tractor is charging. Does the indicator light light up when you turn the key on? Does it go out after the tractor is started and revved up a bit? If yes to both, then it's probably charging OK. If the light doesn't light when the key is turned on, then th ebulb is probably burnt out, and should be replaced. If you have a Multimeter, or a volt meter, check the battery voltage with the tractor running. It should be over 14 V. Beyond that, check all the battery connections, and the general battery condition. If the battery top is encrusted with a whitish layer of crap, then the battery has likely been overcharged. If it is like this, get some warm water and baking soda and clean the battery. This layer of crap will conduct current to ground and discharge the battery. The battery should also be load tested. You'll likely have to take it to an auto parts store or NH dealer, or some other garage to do this, or else check the battery for dead cells with a battery hydrometer. Giving the battery a good charge while disconnected from the tractor, and then load testing, or simply using it to see how it performs will give a better idea of it's condition. Chances are that if it still discharges while it's disconnected, then it's bad. If it only discharges while connected to the tractor, then something is draining it.

The easiest way to find a current draw on a tractor is with an OHM meter. Disconnect the wires at the starter, and with the ohm meter, check each wire for resistance. When you find a wire with resistance, follow it, and find the fault. With the key turned off, nothing should be drawing current or showing resistance. That's the idea anyway. If you need more info, post back.

Rod

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mjbrown

07-12-2006 04:33:53




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
All good advice here from people who obviously have been there and done that. I would try disconnecting the battery cable when not in use and be sure it's not the battery first. An option not mentioned is a battery isolator switch like the ones used on boats could be mounted somewhere .



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CRUSADER

07-12-2006 00:25:22




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
lucy,
Not sure which year model tractor you have, but some of the 3000, 4000,6000, etc. series tractors this sounds common from my past experiences. If I recall correctly they have a lucas charging system. I would take generator and regulator to a shop and have them checked. There is a good chance that one or both of them is the problem. If they are both good, try removing the fuses one by one and put a test light accross the contacts of where the fuse would go. If the test light lights up, there's a good chance that is where the short is at.

Jim

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Glen in TX

07-11-2006 22:29:49




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
Not just bashing Fords but we had one of those 6000s once and you just always pulled up to it with pickup first and got booster cables out. They seemed to be famous for that. Gut the harness and get a new one or start over and make your own. Tractor supplies or this place may have new ones now?



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Turke Bros Farms

07-11-2006 18:08:49




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
Try this, get a fresh battery and remove All fuses, connct the new battery, and put one fuse in at a time. When one of then sparks when you install it, that is the circuit with the draw. We used to have a few old gas ford dump trucks a few years ago and that always worked.



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John T

07-11-2006 14:46:52




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
It dont hurt and if you remove one of the battery cables yet she still discharges when setting, then Id have the battery tested at a shop as its likely the problem. See if theres electrolyte above all the plates and if any cells exhibit a gray or milky color indicative of a bad cell. If the battery is good and she only discharges if left connected to the tractor, then its time to see what wires or circuits have a short to ground by removing circuits and/or fuses one at a time and use of a test lamp or voltmeter to trace down the bad/shorted circuit.

John T

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Matt Kane

07-11-2006 13:55:25




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 Re: wiring in reply to lucy, 07-11-2006 13:51:36  
Had a Ford 5000 Diesel, Same thing battery would go dead. Ended up cleaning all the connections and replacing the battery with a new diesel battery, and no more problems. The old battery just wouldnt hold a charge any longer. If anything take it in and have it tested.



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RustyFarmall

07-11-2006 14:16:11




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 Re: wiring in reply to Matt Kane, 07-11-2006 13:55:25  
I agree, take the battery to an auto parts store that sells new batteries, and have it tested. Batteries do not last forever. Most of them are doing good if they last 5 years.



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