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Mike Veen B.C.

08-01-2006 20:20:41

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Anyone try heating oil in a tractor?It's less per gallon here than diesel.

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Yugrotcart

08-02-2006 14:17:02

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Re: heating oil in reply to Mike Veen B.C., 08-01-2006 20:20:41

Mike,
That's the business that I am in. Heating oil and dyed diesel are the same animal , basically, here in Canada. The new fuels are all low sulphur. The main difference is that home heating oil will jell at a warmer temperature. I have never heard off any ill effects, besides jelling, when using heating oil. Here we pay GST on both heating oil and dyed diesel. Some suppliers get fussy, so order your fuel and mom's the word..... .

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MikeVeen

08-02-2006 14:34:01

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Re: heating oil in reply to Yugrotcart, 08-02-2006 14:17:02

Not saying that anyone should ...but what would someone add to home oil to make it not gell in ones tractor or truck...?

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Yugrotcart

08-02-2006 17:29:38

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Re: heating oil in reply to MikeVeen, 08-02-2006 14:34:01

Diesel fuel conditioner. Many companies make it, including Keen Flo, Flo Chem,,,,, ,,,,

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dej(JED)

08-02-2006 06:30:41

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Re: heating oil in reply to Mike Veen B.C., 08-01-2006 20:20:41

Heating oil lacks cetane number and some additives. You can get away with using it for a while, but maintance needs from using it will
occur much quicker than with diesel.

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jdemaris

08-02-2006 06:02:05

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Re: heating oil in reply to Mike Veen B.C., 08-01-2006 20:20:41

I've been using it for 30 years in all my diesel tractors/crawlers and also in several pickup trucks on the farm in New York. From any supplier I've bought from, heating oil and off-road diesel are the same thing. I just came back from Michigan, and there they sell the dyed off-road fuel at the pump. I've never had any fuel related problems, and also - there's been no difference in cold weather starting. My 83 Chevy diesel Blazer plow-truck was always a hard-starter - but it starts no worse with dyed heating oil than it did with high-cetane highway fuel - and presently it has heating oil in it that's over three years old. I've also got an 85 Ford farm truck with a 6.9 diesel - and it was always a great cold weather starter. Now, off the road for farm use with old heating oil, it starts just as well. I also dump my waste motor oil into my 600 gallon diesel tank and have no problems. In the winter, I used to add kerosene - but the past two years I've only added Power Service anti-gel during the winter - and it gets down to -30F here. Never had a gel-problem, but I've had a few with diesel-bacteria until I started using biocide. In regard to fuel and lubricosity, the on-road pump fuel has less - not more. In fact, when low-sulfur diesel first came out, several injection pump companies were recommending the use of an added lubricant - or rebuilding the pump with more durable parts. Roosamaster/Stanadyne sells "Artic" replacement parts for thin fuel or fuel lacking lubricosity.

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mjbrown

08-02-2006 03:45:14

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Re: heating oil in reply to Mike Veen B.C., 08-01-2006 20:20:41

I've ordered both and the supplier filled both tanks from the same truck. Two bills though. There's sales tax on heating oil but not on tractor diesel. Hmmm.

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paul

08-01-2006 22:10:40

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Re: heating oil in reply to Mike Veen B.C., 08-01-2006 20:20:41

Diesel engine should run #2 diesel, unless it is below freezing, then some #1 should be added to preven geling.

Used to be that heating fuel was, 95% of the time, the very same #2 diesel. Was cheaper for the suppliers to just have one tank supply for both uses.

Technically, heating oil doesn't need to have all the anti-wear additives & centane minimum that #2 does. And, there are lower grades of oil that will be called heating oil - think down to #5 or so?

I'd want to talk to the supplier first, about the additives before going to 'heating oil'. Lots of times it works well, but I'd hate to ruin a tractor by trying to save a few bucks.

In today's world with high fuel prices, it might be more cost effective for the suppliers to stock a lower grade, untreated fuel oil for heating. I'd not want to burn that all the time in a diesel.

--->Paul

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davpal

08-01-2006 22:03:59

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Re: heating oil in reply to Mike Veen B.C., 08-01-2006 20:20:41

I always use no. 2 fuel oil in the tractor. When he comes out to fill the heating oil barrel I just have him top off the tractor. I think the only difference is the road diesel doesn't have the red dye in it that the house stuff does. Runs the same in there. Not a huge difference in price for me unless I have bought at a pre buy price. A lot faster and easier though to have them deliver it each time.

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