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dave in Mn

08-29-2006 19:24:07




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I purchased a tractor in Canada and plan on getting it this weekend. Are there any restrictions that I need to be aware of or can I just cross the border with the tractor? I know I will need a passort but is that I all I need?

I would appreciate your comments.

Thanks Dave




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Blackhole49

08-30-2006 05:09:49




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to dave in Mn , 08-29-2006 19:24:07  
I brought a JD M through Port Huron to MI from Ontario 3 years ago. Didn't need to have a passport then. In order not to pay a duty on it, I had to prove I was not using it for a buisness. That caught me off guard. By having an I.D. card from my place of employment, I was able to convince them I was a collector. Good luck.



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Hugh MacKay

08-30-2006 03:22:05




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to dave in Mn , 08-29-2006 19:24:07  
Dave: Call US Customs, before you leave. Never worry about the country your leaving. It is similar both ways. US Customs can give form to fill out in Canada after you've made your deal. You fax these to US Customs 3 to 4 hours before you expected arrival at border. This will insure your crossing is much smoother.

They know your coming, know what your coming with, know which port of entry you are going to use and know most criminals don't pass on advance warning of their coming. Yes, they may want to do an inspection, but that is random and very routine. Be very clear where you are going, where you were.

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MSD

08-29-2006 21:23:06




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to dave in Mn , 08-29-2006 19:24:07  
2 years ago I brought a tractor in from BC. No problems, all they wanted to see was that the serial number on the tractor matched the number on the tractor. Have heard that you need to have all the grease and dirt removed before they let you across but they said nothing. It was a small crossing in the middle of nowhere so that might have made a difference. I found on an Atlas I had, the different numbers for the port of entrys at different locations. I called the one we were going to cross at before leaving and they said it was no problem as long as it was originally made in the USA.

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Mel H

08-29-2006 19:57:07




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to dave in Mn , 08-29-2006 19:24:07  
About 30 years ago, I purchased a piece of construction equipment in Edmonton. Got to the border and was informed that the import duty would be one half of the value. Had to have a lawyer to handle the paper work who happed to be very conveniently located at the border crossing. After looking in the law books, it was discovered that my machine, which was originally manufactured in the USA,was exempt. I was merely returning to the USA with it! There was no duty required. Lawyer charged me $50!! Went out and got in my truck and came home. FAST!

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jdemaris

08-29-2006 19:49:01




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to dave in Mn , 08-29-2006 19:24:07  
Seems it would be too easy to just be allowed to cross - if the tractor is Canadian - but hopefully I'm wrong. I got stuck in New London, Ontario, Canada last month. I was just passing through from the Upper Penninsula, Michigan to my home in New York State - when the transmission sprung a huge leak in my Ford F250. I was sort of in a panic. Had my wife, two year old kid, and a very old and crippled dog. The truck had a slide-on camper on it also. And, it was hot out - close to 100 degrees F. We just made it to a Best Western Motel - and no dogs allowed. My wife and kid got a room, and I stayed out with the dog. We drove around with the AC on and I kept stopping and pouring Dexron into the transmission. It was leaking a gallon every five miles. At first we didn't think the truck could be fixed before the dog died of heat. We decided we had several options - #1 - buy another truck, leave mine behind, and put my camper on the new truck. NO GOOD. Can't transfer a Canadian vehicle into the US that fast. Okay. plan #2 - we'd rent a truck and put my camper on it. So, I called several big companies - e.g. Uhaul. Again - NO GOOD. I cannot rent a pickup truck or a car and bring it into the US. Now I was getting p*Ssed. All of sudden, Canada really WAS a different country. We did find out we could rent a truck, put our camper on it - and leave it at the border - where we'd have to rent another truck (from the US), and transfer everything. What a mess. Finally, I went to a small transmission shop with two really nice guys - that owned the place so they could do what they wanted. They spent all day, and had the truck back together and fixed by 6 PM that night. They felt sorry for me - and I'm glad they did. It kind of makes you feel good when something like that happens. But - going through Canada? I think for now on, I'll take the long route to Michigan and stay on US land. Good luck. And by the way, I'm not trashing Canada. For all I know, if a Canadian got stuck in the US, the same problems would exist. I never had to think about it before.

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StuBC

08-30-2006 05:57:29




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to jdemaris, 08-29-2006 19:49:01  
"For all I know, if a Canadian got stuck in the US, the same problems would exist."

It does exist.



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Hugh MacKay

08-30-2006 05:16:29




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to jdemaris, 08-29-2006 19:49:01  
jdemaris: Very important we make use of our acquaintences here at YT. You were within 30 min. of me. In fact if you crossed at Port Huron- Sarnia, you drove within 2 miles of my house. Dogs, cats, wives, children and the father-husband are all welcome.

I'm not much of a transmission man, but I think we could have made you comfortable much quicker, plus directed you to a car-truck shop. I'm glad to hear you got looked after by a decent shop. As YTers one thing we could take advantage of is one of our fellow YTers taking us to a shop where he is a regular customer. All of a sudden you are seen as a friend of a regular customer, thus enjoy the same comfort.

I once had the very same problem as you in a suburb of Boston. Normally being a Canadian that would not be very comfortable. We called my Wife's uncle who lived close by. Within 1 hour a tow truck had picked up our Pontiac, and we were enjoying a visit with the uncle and his wife. I've had worse experiences 300 miles from home in my own country.

Then there is the other end of the spectrum. We once had a car breakdown at Riverre du Loop QC. I'll bet there are not ten people in that town, can makes a sentence in English. We speak very little French. This was at 4am, a tow truck operator piled 4 of us in his cab, called his wife to meet us with her van. He directed her to take us to a particular motel. We were treated exceptionally well. That one was pure luck of the draw.

I think we as Yters could have an exceptional network. Maybe should have a page where you can post the route of the proposed trip, ask who is close by that route should one encounter problems.

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jdemaris

08-30-2006 06:00:01




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-30-2006 05:16:29  
Thanks for the offer, I wish I'd known. Yes, we crossed at Port Huron into Sarnia. In fact, I was at the check-in booth at the border when some people in line yelled over to me that my truck was leaking something. I didn't check it though until I got across the US border into Canada. It was then I realized it was a bad leak and it was internal(no easy fix). We first considered attempting a cross back into Michigan/US. But, there was a huge line - and if anyone saw our leak - they'd probably impound the truck. So, we got off the highway, went to an auto-parts store, and I bought ALL their transmission fluid they had - around 20 gallons. We then attempted to make it across Canada - but soon found out it was not possible. Having the automatic-overdrive with lockup converter made it worse - in a way (1994 Ford F-250 diesel). The transmission was able to just about run empty and yet the truck still drove okay. But, when I slowed down and pulled over to check my oil - the truck would no longer move (once the lockup "unlocked"). So, I filled it, the truck's computer went into some sort of default shift-mode, and we limped to the Best Western in New London. The transmission shop I found was in the outskirts in Lambeth - the shop named "Transmission Man." Real nice guys. In the early morning, I tied my old dog to a little cedar tree in front of the shop. By noon, it got so hot - he looked like he was going to die. One of the transmission guys set up a special fan for the dog with an old furnace blower and we kept it pointed at him all day. Again, those guys were great. I offered to work on the truck with them - but their insurance would not allow it. I offered them a $100 tip (US) and they wouldn't accept it. This kind of renwed my faith in humanity - maybe not all has gone so h*ll yet? Also - one side note. Although I used to chase girls and drink in Canada (in Labelle Province, Québec) when I was younger in the 70s, and my wife went to grad-school in Toronto - I learned some new things. That, because I read every Canadian book, newspaper, and magazine in the transmission shop. It was interesting to read things from a Canadian perspective - along with some "gripes and groans" about the Canadian government. Other than service manuals, it's the most reading I'd done - in one sitting - probably ever. That being said, I was never so happy to cross into the US - even into a dump like Buffalo/Fort Erie.

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Hugh MacKay

08-30-2006 08:20:12




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to jdemaris, 08-30-2006 06:00:01  
jdemaris: Vehicle problems away from home, just not the most fun thing in the world. But then you probably learned more about Canada at the transmission shop than you would have had you caught up with me. I don't buy newspapers anymore, don't read the news or watch it on TV. My wife's into gardening mags., I have reams of old tractor material along with 3 old tractors. I could have taken you to see dozens more as this area is a hotbed for old iron. Just about equal amounts of IH, JD, MH, MM, Case and Allis. Lesser numbers of the rest, at least that is how the shows play out.

Now, the downside of finding me, would have been, I would have pumped hell out of you on interesting places to see in the USA. You might not have found out anything about Canada.

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Tramway Guy

08-29-2006 19:40:08




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 Re: ? on bringing in a tractor from Canada to the in reply to dave in Mn , 08-29-2006 19:24:07  
You need to talk to a customs broker in the USA before you go to pick it up. They should be able to tell you what is needed. Otherwise you are likely to get stuck for hours or days at the border. I would think that age of the tractor will affect the requirements somewhat. Also where the tractor was originally made...
For sure, you will need to have proof of ownership.
I bought a five-year old car in Quebec and brought it back to New York state; the broker had all the paperwork done ahead of time, and it only took a few minutes to get through.

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