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bcPA

08-30-2006 10:15:49




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I would like to know why the problems developed that you had. Was it only on the south side of the howse. Too much moisture or a lack of ventelation problem? How is the condition of the roof decking under the shingles? What does the underside of the roof decking look like? Is it mildewed or moldy or damp? I would want These questions answered along with some I havent thought of yet if it were my roof. I read that the metal roofs can have a moisture problem on their underside also if everything is not done just right.

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MN Bob

08-30-2006 13:22:42




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to bcPA, 08-30-2006 10:15:49  
bcPA; Well, I noticed it starting a couple years ago but since it was only in the valleys and we had a severe winter with ice buildup after a couple thaws I blamed that. This year all the shingles show some problem and the valleys on North and South are worse. I called the local building material supplier I got them from and they told me there was a 2 year period (installation) that was showing problems and had the mfg rep come to my house. Whats below? I wont know that untill I get them up. The under side in the attic shows no problems. Good questions and I will watch as I replace this material. I am looking at a product called Ice and Water Shield as an underlayment. Bob

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Dachshund

08-30-2006 11:16:24




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to bcPA, 08-30-2006 10:15:49  
Just my opinion but, I'd NEVER put a metal roof on a structure that is meant for habitation (ie - house). As a former roofing and window inspector, I have NEVER found a metal roof that didn't have unseen (an unknown about) damage underneath. This goes the same for metal wrapped windows and doors. Even if the metal was "installed correctly". Can a composite roof have unseen damage? Sure, but (in my experience) on average, it is a LOT less. Metal does not breathe like composite does. Metal is also not maintenance free. It will actually call for MORE upkeep (in most cases). A lot of folks are happy with thier metal roof, but in my experience, and seeing what I've seen, I sure wouldn't want one on anything but an out building. Just my 2 cents!

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massey333

08-30-2006 14:42:41




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to Dachshund, 08-30-2006 11:16:24  
Like you said everyone has their opinon,but a good Double Crimp Standing Seam Roof will last 50 to 100 years without much Maint.A Composition roof will maybe get 10 to 15 years at the most.(The only Problem today MIGHT be todays Metals)There is no cauking or screws to keep replacing on Standing Seam except at chimneys and vents.(Which has to be done on Composition too)



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Dachshund

08-30-2006 18:22:51




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to massey333, 08-30-2006 14:42:41  
Except that even crimped standing seem, there are problems where it is crimped. Wind also can effect the metal even if there are no screws. A GOOD composite roof will last 25-30 years. It's his decision, but I cannot recommend a metal roof of any kind to anyone! Your experience might be different.



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MN Bob

08-30-2006 13:29:34




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to Dachshund, 08-30-2006 11:16:24  
Dachshund; No argument as you have experience behind your opinon. I would like to know what would be the MORE upkeep to look for? and have you stayed current with the newer products on the market for residential houses? Would really like you opinon before I commit. Thanks, Bob



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Dachshund

08-30-2006 13:43:32




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 13:29:34  
I have remained current until 2 years ago. Most people don't realize that the metal does need maintained over time - caulking, seals , and gaskets can wear out, wind hail and rain take thier toll (in some ways wind and hail can cause worse damage to a metal roof). Remember: a PIN HOLE will let in a lot of water. My wife's dad used to preah to me how good a metal roof is, yet he is up there every year caulking and replacing screws. Most people never even LOOK at thier metal roof, because they assume that there is no maintenence involved. They never see the damage, either. I'm sure other's will have differing opinions, but I'd go with composite for a home. It's just my 2 cents.

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IH2444

08-30-2006 11:03:44




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to bcPA, 08-30-2006 10:15:49  
You got that right bcPA. If the best roof is installed improperly it will not do well.



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MN Bob

08-30-2006 20:06:46




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to IH2444, 08-30-2006 11:03:44  
My thanks to all for the replies. Like always, still my decision. Have to look at the final settlement and costs. May just give a buyer a roofing allowance, sell and build a new one. I am on 5.2 acres here, a 1.2 acre lot beside me is empty and for sale, $99,000.00. Taxes are killing me anyway, been trying to get the wife to move to the farm for years. This may do it. Bob



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Ken Macfarlane

08-31-2006 04:48:48




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 Re: OT Roofing in reply to MN Bob, 08-30-2006 20:06:46  
We just bought a metal roof and I'm sort of convinced many steel roof problems are from installing directly on sheathing such that air can't circulate.

We are being extra careful to tape and caulk both vapour barriers below the steel so our houses moisture doesn't get up there. Hopefully it lasts 60 years so I never have change it.

I fully expect to maintain seals and such. My parents have a brand new shingle roof (2 yo) and we have to retar all the metal stove flashings every year after the summer.

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