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TomR Ont

09-07-2006 21:07:04

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Went to the IGA to-day and potatoes were the same price as last year $2.49, only difference is they are now in a 7lb bag not 10lb. That's a 30% increase.
First of the year their in store baked bread was $1.49 and went up to $1.69, 6 month later it's about 20% smaller that = a 33% increase.
I just hope the farmers got some the increase, not just the packers and plastic/chemical food re-manufacturing companys.
Are food prices on the rise, if so demand your share before anymore of you go broke.

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KentInKC

09-08-2006 14:31:15

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

Gentlemen, I'm not a farmer but have worked on farms when I was younger and lived around them all my Ozark life. I'm 54 now and, I'm sure like most of you, starting to see how this world is changing. My wife and I bought some beautiful land in the country (I know, you and I both hate to see that but it is a fact) and are starting a business selling wind and solar systems. So, I think about this stuff a lot and have since I was a teen.

I'm starting to think maybe one bright spot for the farmer is biodiesel. Not corn, it costs too much money and effort to grow and competes with people's mouth. I'm thinking about bamboo. It takes little effort to get started, requires little or no fertilizer and can grow in muddy bottom land unsuitable for regular crops. Some species of bamboo can grow, I've heard, four feet a DAY! It can withstand heat and its sure going to be getting hotter.

Since bamboo is useable for so many things from clothing to an excellent building material and even food, it should also be a fine thing to make biodiesel from. And whether or not you make biodiesel, the other markets for it could prove to make it quite a nice little cash crop.

What do you boys think?

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nballen

09-08-2006 15:09:44

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to KentInKC, 09-08-2006 14:31:15

BAD IDEA!!

Can someone say "Kudzu, deja vu"?

Bamboo is very invasive...if it will grow 4' per day (using your numbers), how do you propose to control it when it's growing wild on the ditch banks / road banks / fence rows?

Bamboo can/does spread by rhyzomes. Have you had any success controlling morning glory (field bind weed) lately? How about quack grass?

OK, for the technical side...
How much water does bamboo require? In the Inland NW, getting enought water to the crop is the issue.

To produce biodiesel, you've got to have oil in the crop. Serious question - What is the oil content of bamboo?

Nice idea, but there's A LOT of questions that need to be answered before anyone tries planting bamboo!

Nathaniel

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Glen in TX

09-08-2006 09:59:38

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

I've noticed the smaller bread loaves here too. It's only going to get worse. We have sat back and been able to do nothing but survive or go out. It's only going to get worse with bigger fat boy commodities companies and big government and they will own it all someday and go broke too and wonder why they needled out the farmer. Same with big oil companies wanting to run everything their way. It's not only here but other countries also. Food is still cheap in a way but the farmer isn't getting their share for the risk taken.

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Keith-OR

09-08-2006 08:56:16

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

Don't know, you're really getting hosed out your way, our potatoes are still in 10 lb. bags, less than $2.00. But they raise thousand of acres spuds in our area. Produce lots of french fries for McD's, Burger King and Windy's. Can still buy bread for under a dollar. BUT we are still paying over $3.00 a gal for gas, and almost $3.50 for diesel.....AND no KISS

Keith

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Nebraska Cowman

09-08-2006 07:56:49

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

You gotta be kidding. When I was a kid (I'm 52 now) ice cream was 59� a half gallon and we ate lots of it. What is it now? $2.50? how about eggs? They've gone fom 29� to 89� in the past 30 years. Woopee. Meanwhile the price of a new automobile has gone up 10 times and so has fuel. Farm machiney? a tractor that cost $2700 in 1965 will cost you $27,000 today. Seed and fertilizer? Let's don't even go there. So yeah, we sell corn and wheat for a couple bucks a bushel, It was that in 1940. Milk has gone from $7 or 8 to maybe a high of $14 CWT. Beef? The cow I sold in 1965 for 14� might bring half a buck now. So in conclusion. Food is the cheapest thing we buy hands down. I feel guilty everytime I go to the grocery store knowing that the Americam farmer is working for nothing.

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paul

09-08-2006 07:27:39

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

Commodity grains are steady the past couple years. Seasonally they are down now, but mostly have been flat for 3 years or so. Beans are expected to drop, corn & wheat are hoped to hold their own or raise a bit on speculation we will need more in coming years.

Fuel & fertilizer is up. A lot.

We are getting it, but not the way you hoped. ;)

--->Paul

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IHFan

09-08-2006 04:01:50

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

Most of the price is lack of labor and fuel. We can't find help in our tobacco and friends tell me the same in the produce. Nobody gives a d**m about the tobacco but food willtake another turn! All our food will soon come from over seas. It happend to everthing else! Sorry i'll go now.

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Dannie

09-08-2006 02:36:18

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

The only increases the Farmer got was a cost increases..... ..... ..... .

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Hugh MacKay

09-08-2006 01:14:47

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Re: Hope you Farmers Got a Piece of the Increases in reply to TomR Ont, 09-07-2006 21:07:04

Tom: Very observant, most consumers hadn't even noticed the 7 lb potato bag. I'm going back this morning and pull the 7 lb empty bag over the produce managers head. It should look good on him.

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