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Philmar Farms

09-24-2006 07:46:38




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I do not get worked up to often but here goes.
I was at an auction saturday and before some items sold horn buttons,emblems,points covers on magnetos were disapearing. There is a place in he!!for these people.




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Dachshund

09-25-2006 18:30:23




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
I also get irritated a sales that have "10% buyer's premium" (or any premium). I tend to just stay away from those or go home if I'm already there.



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john *.?-!.* cub owner

09-24-2006 20:14:05




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
Many auctioneers are jsut as crooked. I was biffing on a hand drinder tha clamped on a bench, and a buddy of the auctioneer was bidding agianst me. when I onw the bid the auctioneer reached to a loer whelf and handed me damaged one, then proceed to sell the one we had been bidding on to his buddy for the seocnd place bid. Needless to say, I raised some cane.



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redtom

09-24-2006 18:01:00




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
I can't imagine an auctioneer being that careless with guns. Around here they keep guns, watches, prized paper items, etc in the house with the family or in the clerk trailer. That still doesn't keep stuff from walking. I once bought a heavy old two wheel dolly, someone must've used it to get their stuff to their truck a nd then just kept it too.



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doogdoog

09-24-2006 15:11:00




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
Aloha, I know what you mean. I always go to auctions by myself but I wish I could have as many people to watch over each of my winnings when I pay and when I get my truck. Seems like that is the only way to keep things from walking away.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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Gerald J.

09-24-2006 12:48:34




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
Last week at an antique tool auction, there was a sheriff's deputy in uniform lounging around. He promised to have a long day.

Gerald J.



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Nebraska Cowman

09-24-2006 11:53:08




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
Oh, there's bad apples in every bunch. I've had a few things walk off too. But I still enjoy the adventure. Just remember the rules, it's "Buyer beware and Watch your own stuff", Oh and yeah, don't believe everything the actioneer says neither. He went to school special to learn to talk out of both sides of his mouth.



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KEH

09-24-2006 14:40:48




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-24-2006 11:53:08  
Yes, and if you are selling an implement with a pto shaft you better wire it to the implement so someone can't steal it . If you buy an implement with pto shaft take the pto shaft with you as soon as you get your receipt, especially if you are not going to pick up the implement that day.

KEH



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Glen in TX

09-25-2006 18:16:08




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to KEH , 09-24-2006 14:40:48  
They been locking up the PTO shafts at consignment auctions around here for years and you got to remember to pick it up at office or auction trailer when you leave. They always announce or when asked tell you if they have the shaft for it or have it chalked on machine.



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Jon Hagen

09-24-2006 11:50:48




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
We used to have an old gal in the area who would "arrange" things in the bottom of a box/boxes at household sales to maximize her $$. One time the auctioneer saw her squirrel an antique pocket watch in the bottom of a junk box.
When she was off arranging other items he retrived the watch and put it in his pocket. During the auction she got the high bid on the junk box,and at that moment the auctioneer pulled the watch from his pocket and said "And now we sell the watch" He said he never saw her so red faced,but within moments she was back on her game for the rest of the auction.

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Dachshund

09-24-2006 11:12:22




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
Also hate consignment sales with shill bidders.
Went to a sale last Summer that had 250 Hedge posts. A neighbor of mine needed some so he started to bid. I noticed the main guy bidding the price up was the guy I saw unloading the posts. A few others figured it out, too. The guy went home with 98% of his posts on "no-bids".



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Mike (WA)

09-25-2006 12:40:31




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Dachshund, 09-24-2006 11:12:22  
Opinions may differ, but I don't consider a guy bidding up his own stuff a "shill"- to me, a shill is a guy hired by, or an employee of, the auction, who bids stuff up to a certain price before dropping out. When I take stuff to an auction, especially a fairly expensive item, I don't expect to give it away if there only happens to be one guy who wants it, so I will protect it, if need be. Local Auction house charges "buy-backs" a commission, as well.

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Dachshund

09-25-2006 15:01:24




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Mike (WA), 09-25-2006 12:40:31  
Dunno - here "bidding up" your own items is considered shill bidding. It is also illegal and there have been auctions shut down for it. Auctioneers have lost lisences over it. If you are seen bidding up your own stuff - chances are you will be the only one bidding because everyone else will stop, and the auctioneer will talk to you about it. On an absolute auction, that's the chance the seller has to take - stuff may not go for what they want. If you want to "protect" your items, be honest about it and tell people there is a reserve price.

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Rauville

09-24-2006 09:43:07




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
Yesterday, at a local estate auction there were 3 long guns. When it got time to sell them, 1 rifle was missing. After some searching, it was found stuck between the boxspring and mattress that were on an old cheap bed. I'm sure some @%&*# enterprising thief went home disappointed.



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Coloken

09-24-2006 09:04:10




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
The one I can't understand is the time I had a friend buy a 10 horse Kohler engine for me for parts.. He got it and a 9 horse B&S for first starting bid of 4 dollars. When to get pickup to load them and when he came back it (the kohler) was gone. Why didn't they bid??



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37 chief

09-24-2006 08:36:24




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to Philmar Farms, 09-24-2006 07:46:38  
I can put up with a lot, but when people take things that don't belong to them is just not right. I purchased some boxes with misc items at an auction a while back, and someone took some of the things I had just purchased, before I could load them in my pickup. Stan



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iowa_tire_guy

09-24-2006 10:39:51




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 Re: auction behavior rant in reply to 37 chief, 09-24-2006 08:36:24  
There was a man in our community who loved going to auctions but was well known as a theif. One auctioneer would would even announce that he was there by name and he was a thief so watch your things. Most people would have gone home but he stayed and did the best he could. He died a millionare too. You should have seen the mess the packrat left his widow to clean up.



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