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Nebraska Cowman

09-26-2006 04:24:10

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I put a reply in the post below but thought maybe I'd better move it up the page. Our tractor club planted 4 acres just so we could see how it was done. The idea was to plant the corn so the rows could be cultivated 4 ways to get all the weeds in the days before herbicides. This was some of the ground that we plowed at our spring plowday. See some of what we are doing at href="http://plowday.com">Plowday.com
We used a 2 row check planter. This was a project for our club as most of us had never seen it done. It is a hill drop planter. Plants 2-3 seeds per hill every 40 inches in 40 inch rows making a checkerboard pattern if it's done right. The planter runs off a wire that trips the seeding mechanism and must be moved over at the end of each pass.
Confused now? We may try it again next year.
A lot of dryland crops failed in this area. you should see my conventional planted corn, it is a lot worse. No, Gary. we opted to use Round-up ready corn and stay out with the cultivator. Stirring up the ground would only loose more moisture. I sprayed once and it stayed pretty clean til after polination.

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BillyinStoughton

09-26-2006 08:09:35

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:24:10

Indeed that is a JD 290 planter (got one just like it on rubber). The idea of check planting looked good on paper, but consumed a lot of time when it came to planting (always having to hook the trip wire at the start of each row). My dad told me that my grandpa tried it once when the idea first hit the streets back in the late 40's. He said it was too time consuming and was back to row planting the next year, as it had always been done. I've always wanted to try check planting in a small plot, just to say I've done it. You'll have to keep us posted with pictures as things progress Cowman.

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Do the president a favor and get that poor guy a hydraulic marker...they aren't hard to fabricate on that 290...maybe I'm just lazy. :)

Billy

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Matt from CT

09-26-2006 07:19:42

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:24:10

Very interesting!

I saw a field in my area planted like that. It didn't look like sweet corn, so I was trying to figure out why the planted with wide spaced hills like that. It's in the middle of an area they're growing houses now, so my guess is some tractor guy was playing with his toys before the houses sprout.

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slim

09-26-2006 06:55:12

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:24:10

What kind of tractor is that? It looks a lot like my 420. Any more pictures?

Thanks

slim

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Nebraska Cowman

09-26-2006 07:50:09

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to slim, 09-26-2006 06:55:12

It's a John Deere. Belongs to our Club president.
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Here's another of it at Plowday
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slowfolk

09-26-2006 06:20:12

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:24:10

I was a little confused when you said you used a "Hilldrop Planter". When I was young, some 52 years ago I used a Check planter (a horse drawn planter converted to tractor pull)and checked many acres of corn. When checking the planter would drop 4 kernel every 40". The planter was set so the row width was at 40" wide. This would allow you to cultivate the rows the same way it was planted and then cross cultivate at 90 degree from the planting direction. (if you planted the rows some what straight) One trick I learned was when you moved the check wire at the end of the rows was to try and keep the same pressure on the wire when pushing the wire holding stake into the ground. This would help keep the cross rows straight for culivating cross way.

Hilldropping planting was done without the use of the check wire and the planter was set so it would trip and drop 2 kernels at 20" spacing. You could only cultivate one direction.

Of course the planter could also be set for "Drilling" which dropped 1 kernel every 6".

Just my memories of planting corn before switching to the the 1960 era International 4 row planter which had the revolutionary "Rotary Cell" for accuratly hilldropping kernels at a much faster rate. (obsolete today)

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MF#1

09-26-2006 05:53:11

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:24:10

Cowman, what model is that planter? During WW2 my grandaddy, uncle, and dad planted over 20 acres of hemp for "uncle sam", all of it cross checked.

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Nebraska Cowman

09-26-2006 06:02:21

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to MF#1, 09-26-2006 05:53:11

It's a 290 planter. My buddy fixed it up and donated it to the club. We need to find a correct roll of new wire for it.

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GeorgeH

09-26-2006 12:26:18

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 06:02:21

Guess I saw one of these at last weekend show Xenia, OH. Guess what, I wondered what that roll of barbed (I thought) wire was for. Now I know.

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goply

09-26-2006 06:16:01

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Re: More on checked corn in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 06:02:21

I was told you can still buy new check wire at John Deere

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Neb Cowman

09-26-2006 04:27:18

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opps, fixed link in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:24:10

Plowday.com
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IaGary

09-26-2006 05:18:01

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to Neb Cowman, 09-26-2006 04:27:18

Cowman
Heard on the radio this spring that Iowa State did a corn plot this year to compare old hybrids to new.

I believe they also wire checked some corn to compare it using the new style of drilling as a comparison.

Keep your ears open for the results and I will also.

Gary

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Nebraska Cowman

09-26-2006 05:26:59

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to IaGary, 09-26-2006 05:18:01

Something I have heard but not seen is "skip row" I think it is conventional 30 inch rows, plant two and skip one.

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Glen in TX

09-26-2006 15:22:14

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 05:26:59

Nice old planter you guys got. I've seen some skip row corn like that around here this year that looks like 30" rows where they still water with gated pipe instead of a pivot. It looks better than some under the pivots this time. They should be getting close to harvesting it soon and find out what it does. Some also once planted double row corn like spoke of below and double row milo but don't see that anymore.

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JMS/MN

09-26-2006 11:51:27

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 05:26:59

Around here, 'skip row' refers to adding units to a 30 inch planter to plant soybeans in 15 inch rows, but not putting units behind the tractor wheels (skipping them) so you can still cultivate with a rowcrop cultivator, usually running one sweep shank between the rows, 2-3 shanks in the wheel tracks. Twin row is as described- have a neighbor doing that for several years now. Spaces the higher population a bit, gets a yield increase. Not a problem with silage or grain harvesting. Could be with weak stalk strength, corn borer, etc. in regard to ear droppage.

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09-26-2006 07:29:10

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-26-2006 05:26:59

Are you speaking of twin row? Great Plains has, and I sold one that run this year. Plants two rows side by side, 8 inchs apart, centered on 30". Corn is being picked with 30" row cornhead. Final numbers arn't in yet, but it looks promising.

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in-too-deep

09-26-2006 11:11:44

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to DP, 09-26-2006 07:29:10

Wouldn't that be real hard on the corn head? I would think pulling corn in from 4 inches off center from both sides would be tough on the gathering chains and what-not.

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09-26-2006 12:51:16

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to in-too-deep, 09-26-2006 11:11:44

The row units are timed to stager the plants. This allows them to bend over without much effort, and the snapping rolls with knives handle the task fine. Doesn't effect the chains at all.

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in-too-deep

09-27-2006 14:22:36

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Re: opps, fixed link in reply to DP, 09-26-2006 12:51:16

Sounds like that makes sense. I guess when you're talking heavy steel parts, a dried out cornstalk isn't so tough.

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