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Steve from Ark

09-26-2006 11:59:22




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My 504 Farmall was completely underwater for two days. Drug it up to the house yesterday afternoon. Drained engine oil, hydrolic fluid, opened distribitor to air out. Decided to remove the head to be sure there was not mud in the cylinders, and have wiped them clean and am planning to flush out with diesel. Had water in one cylinder, oil in two and one was dry. I guess the oil was pushed up thru the rings by the water in the oil pan.

After cleaning the cylinders, carb, air cleaner, manafolds, new fluids and filters, Is there anything else to do? I know the generator is full of mud, plan on washing it out with water and blow dry it. Same with starter. I guess electric wires and such is just a wait and see.

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Steve from Arkansas

09-26-2006 17:51:12




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
I would like to thank everyone for the all information. It's one of those things that I know what I should do, but also am limited on time and money. So far i have'nt really found any sand in the hydrolics or the oil. Maybe I got lucky. Maybe a good cleaning and a couple of fluid and filter changes will do it. It may turn into the "pay me now,.. or pay me later" I think the pay me later usually costs alot more.

It seems my worries are very small compared to row crop farmers nearby. Most had about half of the rice out and none of the soybeans out. Some are faced with several hundred acres underwater. There just isn't enough profit in these crops to make up for the losses. They are the ones that need our prayers.

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mjbrown

09-26-2006 17:17:52




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
Hi;
I work on boats for my living and boat engines get sunk from time to time, outboard 2 and 4 cycle and inboards as well. We drain the oil , pull the plugs and turn it over to blow the water out of the cylinders. change the oil and filters, dry the ignition, spray wd40 in the cylinders, replace the plugs and get it running! Drain the oil and change the filters and run it under load to get it up to temp and drive out the moisture. The water will probably ruin your starter and generator and make the electrical connection cruddy.
The best thing you can do for your engine if the water was relatively clean is to get it good and hot with fresh clean oil in it.

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ih2444

09-26-2006 17:00:37




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
Don't forget the tranny and hydraulics.



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Nebraska Cowman

09-26-2006 15:36:21




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
I'd say you are on the right tack. Flood water don't ruin near as much stuff as neglecting to clean it up promptly. And believe me, I know how hard that is to do. When you loose home and buildings there is just no way you can get to it all in time. I've throwed truckloads of good building materials on the burn pile cuz we had to get the mess cleaned up and knew that by the time we had time to pull nails and sort stuff out it would be ruined anyway. It don't matter if it's flood, wind or earthquakes. It's just a mess. And fire ain't no better. Best wishes with your cleanup.

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old_bc

09-26-2006 14:14:46




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
A friend of mine who has a houseboat said he counted 50+ big bales of hay floating by here at Augusta last night.We saw some more this afternoon. old_bc



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noncompos

09-26-2006 13:25:57




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
Steve, I've been called a nit-picker (can't understand why) so you may want to disregard this bad news: you didn't say whether under running water or just slowly rising,relatively clean (settled out) water, but if the floodwater was from someplace even faintly sandy, there's the possibility of fine, fine grit, and anything that's had water in it--even if it's just "mud"--isn't going to last long if it's gotten into the bearings, anywhere. If a complete teardown/inspection is out of the question, at least do what you can. Personally, if I couldn't afford, or the unit wasn't worth a teardown, after cleaning as well as possible, I'd get a small barrel of relatively inexpensive oil and a case of filters, run it for a few minutes, drain and change the filter, cutting it open to see what it looks like, repeating at least 5 or 6 times only if it looks very clean. Praying would't hurt, if you're so inclined. You'll have to improvise as to the transmission, final drive and any other moving parts. Good luck.

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Paul from MIch

09-26-2006 13:09:56




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
please expound on this tractor. How the heck did it get under water???!!!



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Steve from Arkansas

09-26-2006 13:27:49




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Paul from MIch, 09-26-2006 13:09:56  
Paul,

I live in the hills of northeast Arkansas, what is known as the foothills of the Ozarks, or Gods Country as we call it. Many creeks and five rivers in our county.

Storms this past friday night and saturday dumped a lot of rain in a hurry. We have floods and usually have time to get cattle and equipment out, but not this time. (They had only predicted about and inch we got 11 to 17 inches.)

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amo

09-26-2006 13:19:45




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Paul from MIch, 09-26-2006 13:09:56  
GO TO PAGE 2 AS OF NOW OF THIS BOARD AND GO TO STORMS AND FLOODING AND YOU WIL;L GET THE REST OF THE STORY.



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old

09-26-2006 13:07:04




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 11:59:22  
I had an Allis B that had been left in a creek when the water came up. We took it all apart and even then it never did run right after that. We found mud and sand in every thing we opened up. We washed out the tranny hyds, engine etc. but from that time one it just wasn't the same ever again

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Steve from Arkansas

09-26-2006 13:33:05




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to old, 09-26-2006 13:07:04  
I was afraid of that. I workded for a guy that had a JD 70 go underwater on this same river from flooding. I guess the sand scored the cylinder walls. Used a lot of oil after that . We would add a couple gallons each morning

I guess I'll do what I can and see how it goes.



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T_Bone

09-26-2006 13:46:54




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 Re: Tractor Underwater in reply to Steve from Arkansas, 09-26-2006 13:33:05  
Hi Steve,

I'm with old, if you want your tractor, take it down and wash it out with diesel.

If your going to sell it then drain the oil and install a TP filter then use diesel oil in the pan over filling by 2qts and circulate that for a couple hours. Let the engine sit over night and drain the diesel before restarting. If alot of sand then repeat a couple times.

I think you'll ruin a good engine even using the diesel. You just can't get rid of all the samd without tear down.

T_Bone

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