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Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics)

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barnrat

10-08-2006 04:00:48

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Been a bit wet so far this fall so we are using 2 tractors to chop with. My neighbors 1066 with a Spicer live front on my 782 NH chopper, and my 1466 w/ Elwood live front that I just got and overhauled this summer as a tow tractor. I wanted to get a pic of the 2 hooked together, but I couldn't get back fast enough to catch em in the act. I'm not a big fan of these kind of red tractors, but there are so many out here and they are so cheap that I just gave in to peer pressure and bought one. I do think I'' take that cab off and put a rops and roof on instead.

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shoecrop

10-09-2006 18:28:20

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

My neighbors direct chop into their ten-twelve ten wheelers with their 6 row FX45s with a 5288 following right behind the truck. So when the truck starts to spin it gets help right away and the chopper doesn't even slow down. when the truck is full it just speeds up and the chopper driver just lifts his chute a little to start loading the next truck in line which had pulled up beside the nearly full one.I dont think that they have yet worked out how to refuel without stopping.

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Luke S

10-09-2006 06:18:32

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

What is that wet brown stuff on the ground??? Hasn't rained enough around here in three years to make the ground that muddy!

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James2

10-09-2006 05:19:54

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Corn looks like it is still pretty "green" Rather than tear up the soil structure, I would rather wait and add water if necessary. I have seen some pretty dry corn chopped and still come out as pretty good feed.

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barnrat

10-09-2006 06:59:22

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to James2, 10-09-2006 05:19:54

Tested 68 percent moisture. Plus the guy we were chopping for was desperate to get his corn silage done as he needed the feed. Also knowing from experience this time of year that mud is only going to get worse, in fact they are calling for lake effct snow come the end of the week. We should have all 90 acres we have to do done by Wednesday. If we can keep chopping 16 hours a day.

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low budget

10-09-2006 03:50:17

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Here in central NY, we usualy need a third tractor pulling sideways to keep from sliding downhill!

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barnrat

10-09-2006 06:53:47

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to low budget, 10-09-2006 03:50:17

We sometimes run three

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jiskies2

10-08-2006 18:25:51

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

heck, whatever it takes to get it done I say. if it takes two tractors to muck through the mud then two it is. Here in eastern ny had to use two tractors to pull out the baler once or twice this year! been a wet one alright,
jeff

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RodInNS

10-08-2006 14:48:02

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Yes, that brings back memories. Memories of a D4H hauling the high dump alongside the harvester. Tractor can most times haul the harvester, but not the wagon.... and certainly couldn't stay on the row with the wagon behind. I'll be lucky this year. I can't sink in the field where the corn is at. There's no more than 6 inches of soil anyway, then I hit sandstone/slate rock. Makes for an easy fall.... this year. Good luck. You've got my sympathies.

Rod

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grazer

10-08-2006 12:36:40

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

You say they are cheap out there.How much is cheap and do alot of them have them frontends on them.

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barnrat

10-08-2006 17:18:04

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to grazer, 10-08-2006 12:36:40

I paid $2100 for it at auction as a 2wd that wouldn't move. I put a new shaft in the transmission, rebuilt TA, new HO hydraulic pump, rebuilt turbo and injection pump, and few little things. The Elwood 4wd unit I added as I had gotten it in trade for some repair work I had done for someone else. All total about $8000 plus my labor. and it runs like the day it was new. A neighbor just bout a mint 1086 2wd for $5000.

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4010guy

10-08-2006 07:02:56

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

WOW. I gotta say that is the coolest looking 1466 i have ever seen. Is that frount weel an ad on or just what is it? Never seen any thing like that befor.Looks like it would be fun to drive in the mudd. :o)

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barnrat

10-08-2006 17:21:53

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to 4010guy, 10-08-2006 07:02:56

It is what they call an Elwood mfwd unit that you could get as a factory option. they bring premium money at auction. Around here with our soil types alot of farmers like those 66 and 86 series IH's with the Elwood mfwd. They are quite common around here.

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ChrisNY

10-08-2006 06:55:08

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Looks like this part of NY. We are on the other end of Lake Ontario but conditions are the same. We finished mudding out 500 acres of corn silage last week.
What size tires on that 1466? That is one sharp tractor, would love to see more pictures of it.

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barnrat

10-08-2006 17:33:40

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to ChrisNY, 10-08-2006 06:55:08

20.8x38 on the rear and on the front I'm not sure come to think of it. 26 inch diameter but I couldn't tell ya the width. I'll look when we start shopping again here tonight. I'm gonna try to get some night pictures of us chopping. We are gonna head out into the real gumbo tonight should be impressive with both tractors hooked together with big plums of smoke and flame coming out the stacks.

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the tractor vet

10-08-2006 06:12:56

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

We were vary lucky that we did not have it have to go Bahaen thru the mud even over on the other farm that has some wet spots that shortly after we were done that turned into lakes with the rain . But we have not started corn picken and until all the equipment is tucked away for the winter it is still a craps shoot . I can remember the one year that during corn picken that we had to put a Case 310G dozer on the ft. of a 323 New Idea one row picker and put the rear tires and wheels off the MD and the M on the two 450 D as straddel duals just to pul the wagons and one helpening pull the dozer that was a vary long corn picken season as we started the first week in Nov. and finished up the second week of march . It never realy froze that year and it made for a vary rough ride when we started spring tillage.

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onefarmer

10-08-2006 06:04:00

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Where did you get those pics of me? ha That was me in the 80"s execpt the chopper tractor was a 4020 with a 4430 tow tractor

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MI Mark

10-08-2006 04:43:57

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

AH the good old days . I remeber those days chopping corn and high moisture ear corn used to pull the wagon beside the chopper . We used one of those new idea uni's with a 3row heads. even tried pushing the chopper with the d-4 back in the 80's it was so wet here in MI that fall got 6or 8 inches of rain over three days filled a 5 gallon bucket about half full .

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IaGary

10-08-2006 04:35:01

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Nice pictures.

That looks like a lot of extra work to get the chopping done.

Gary

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barnrat

10-08-2006 06:01:02

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to IaGary, 10-08-2006 04:35:01

It sure is alot of extra work. but about once every 3 years you gotta go through this procedure.

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IaGary

10-08-2006 07:06:18

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 06:01:02

Barnrat

Yeah your right you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes to get the job done.

I just meant its a lot of extra work because of mother nature.

I remember pulling the disc with two tractors thru the mud holes to open them up so they would dry out better.

Gary

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RAW in IA

10-08-2006 04:23:29

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Chopping and plowing in one trip!

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Allan In NE

10-08-2006 04:22:31

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

You're right. It's too wet.

Allan

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the tractor vet

10-08-2006 06:23:09

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to Allan In NE, 10-08-2006 04:22:31

Well , yea it is a littel soft but when ya are going to fill silo or a bag or bunker ya got to go when the corn is raedy of you will lose it as if it gets to dry waiting for the field to get bone dry then it will be to dry and not make good silage. That is why we started earlie this year when our corn was around 68% moisture and yea it juiced a bit more this year but it sure did pack nice and we did not have the mud that we could have had if we would have waited just one more week . Ya got to remember that we get rain over this way and at times it realy rains and ya end up with big GLOBS OF mud layen on the hoods and fenders of tractors while in the field and on your boots .

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Bill(wis)

10-08-2006 16:47:25

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to the tractor vet, 10-08-2006 06:23:09

Your mention of dry silage brought to mind a fellow who filled his Wis silo with too dry corn and it caught on fire. No flames, mind you, it just smoldered and burned the entire silo contents from the top down. You could watch it progress down the silo by watching the walls of the silo turn color as it burned downward. He got a big kick out of all the attention it got in the local news.

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barnrat

10-08-2006 06:13:10

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to Allan In NE, 10-08-2006 04:22:31

Allen I was thinking of you when I posted those pics thought youd appreciate that red iron.

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Mitch Furness

10-08-2006 04:21:07

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

I like to see photos like this, your country appears very productive. What is the front tractor doing in top pic, is it towing the second one? Another question is it always that wet when you harvest and where in the US is NY, is it New York state?

Mitch

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barnrat

10-08-2006 06:07:01

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to Mitch Furness, 10-08-2006 04:21:07

The front tractor is the tow tractor. When the chopping tractor gets bogged down in wet hole. He will hook on to help get through. Some fields we were doing last night the 2 tractors were never unhooked it was so wet. I live in Chautauqua County New York State. If you look on a map I'm SW of Buffalo NY. It rained 21 out 30 days in September and we got around 12 inches of rain for the month this is only a slightly wetter then average fall for this area.

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Jimmy King

10-08-2006 18:37:16

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 06:07:01

Shoot, Barnrat I don't think we have had 12 inches all year.

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jdemaris

10-08-2006 05:49:52

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to Mitch Furness, 10-08-2006 04:21:07

No, it's not always this wet this time of year. I've got fields in central New York (Otsego County), the Adirondack Mountain region (Hamilton County) and Western New York not too far from Lake Ontario (Jefferson/Lewis Counties). This has been the wettest year I've ever seen - at the least this past spring and summer. But, New York can vary quite a bit by region - especially in the mountain areas. Western New York is pretty much flat-land - but is known for a lot of "lake-effect" storms from Lake Ontario. It's one of the heaviest snow-fall regions this side of the Rocky Mountains for the 48 contiguous states. This is also the time of year for combining - some years it's smooth going with hardly a tire spinning - and other years it's almost impossible due to the mud or snow. Often there's snow on ground in early October. But, a few years ago I mowed hay in early December (which is very unsual).

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Nebraska Cowman

10-08-2006 04:16:31

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to barnrat, 10-08-2006 04:00:48

Silage in October? I don't envy you. That poor old Papec looks bogged down.

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phillip d

10-08-2006 06:12:57

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-08-2006 04:16:31

lol we never start here in eastern Canada BEFORE oct 1 for the tower"s .been alittle wet here too but finished up on the 7th.very nice pics,that 4wd must have been almost the golden standard back in the days when she was brand new.thanks phill

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barnrat

10-08-2006 06:11:33

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Re: Chopping Corn in Western NY(pics) in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-08-2006 04:16:31

If you plant 85 day corn in the middle of May. It'll likely be rady around the end of September or early October on an average year. We just don't get the degree days. And that Papec is a tough old wagon I've got 2 like that one has 20 inch rubber on it.

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