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Farmer in the D

10-23-2006 05:39:26

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I have two electric fences going up that will share one line between them dividing two pastures. That line will have double wires because both pastures will be charged by separate controllers. It is basically shaped like a figure eight. That particular double line is where I am putting the ground system for one of the pastures. I am using three ground rods ten feet apart to ground it due to being more on the sandy side in the area. My question is has anyone used the same grounding system to complete the circuits using multiple controllers? In my mind they should be separate because the charge is directed to and through another part of the pasture. Has anyone done this? Had any success or problems?

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nballen

10-23-2006 10:21:45

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI) , 10-23-2006 05:39:26

Please allow me to think out loud for a bit...
What's the reason for running two fence controllers?

Unless these are HUGE pastures, most controllers will run 5+ miles of fence, so capacity shouldn't be a problem.

If you need one side "off" and the other side "hot", can you arrange the handles to accomplish that? There are a couple places where I have two catch loops for the gate handle - one for "hot" and another for "off" - lets me "turn off" sections of fence and still keep the critters in.

side note - I set up my divider fences to be "off" when each divider gate was open (fence not grounded when gate is open, can handle the wires w/out shock, etc).

my $.02.

Nathaniel

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Errin OH

10-23-2006 06:00:55

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI) , 10-23-2006 05:39:26

I would reccomend that you switch the source between the two and not try to run double wires.

I have a 300' section of fence that a neighbor will not turn the power on because his horses might get shocked (don't ask me, I just shake my head too). Well it takes all of about ten mins for the cows to figure out its off and get in his pasture. So I ran a single wire on his fence (3 runs of 2" tape) to keep them in. Turns out inductance is pretty good and he now complained about getting shocked when they touch his fence (turned off) up by his barn. I verified this myself not believing it.

I replaced the smooth elec wire with non-elec brab wire and he freaked out. If his horses were to get out that stuff could ki11 them. So I am back to smooth elec and 4' off his fence. He claims on certian days he can still feel it but is making a fuss anymore.

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Harley

10-23-2006 07:19:00

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Errin OH, 10-23-2006 06:00:55

Erin, if your neighbor don't like the fence you put up to keep your cows out of his pasture, let them eat it, or tell him to put up the fence to keep them out. Simple and cheaper on you.

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buickanddeere

10-23-2006 05:51:10

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI) , 10-23-2006 05:39:26

One 10ft deep rod may do better than 3 rods drove 3 ft deep.

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Allan In NE

10-23-2006 05:44:03

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI) , 10-23-2006 05:39:26

Farmer,

Ground is ground. You can hang a dozen chargers on one rod if ya want.

Allan

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Allan In NE

10-23-2006 05:45:50

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Allan In NE, 10-23-2006 05:44:03

And,

The ground comes right off the charger to the ground rod; hot lead is then hooked to the fence.

Allan

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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

10-23-2006 06:14:37

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Allan In NE, 10-23-2006 05:45:50

Thanks everyone. I thought so. Just wanted some feedback before I damage one or both controllers. The ground will be three ten foot rods ten foot apart. It is what is suggested in sandy or dryer conditions around here. They even suggested watering the ground in the area from time to time. When I say double wires they are both single smooth lines and will only double in the center of the 8. They will more than likely be on opposite sides of the wood poles in that area as well. I have no other fences or areas that I am worried about becoming charged although one 500 foot run is directly below a power line that feeds my property and one neighbor across the road. We are at the end of the line and since the ground is well away from that side, I am thinking this should not present a problem. Stray voltage has been an issue here in the past. Having said that I may layout a third area off the same ground as soon as the critters get used to the idea of the wire. The hot will hang inside an much older barb fence that is weak and I didn't want to replace it just yet. It is in a sink hole area that I am thinking about turning into a pond. I have one critter in particular that is getting out daily and lately she is getting too close to the road for my liking although she usually hangs around my neighbors alfalfa field. Hmmm, wonder why?. I�ll finish it up this morning and let you know how it works out. I think I�ll let the critters test it though.

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Janicholson

10-23-2006 07:37:08

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Re: fencer ground in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI) , 10-23-2006 06:14:37

What is the fussy neighbor doing with an electric fence on (his side of the posts) if he is so opposed to elecric fences. If it is just a regular fence with wire that is getting induction, Break the wire at 100' intervals and put in insulators to stop the induction. JimN

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