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Best beginners pullin tractor?

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oldcraneguy

11-07-2006 11:57:45




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My best friend and I are planning to do a little pullin next yr when we get moved up to north florida and im just wonderin what would be the best old tractor to start out with while we learn the ropes so to speak, we've got an old 8n that runs great but I dont think they all that strong even in the lower weight classes..Im partial to A-C's cause my grandpa had several when I was a kid and his old WD45 was a powerhouse in its day but I hear that the trannys are kinda weak I kinda like the Olivers cause so many of em had 6 cyl engines, I know everyones got there favorite brand but I kinda like to hear what most people who pull think would be a good (low budget) machine to cut our teeth on...We're not lookin to pull all over the place or win fortune & glory just wanna have a little fun on the wknds without the wives cryin about our money pit...we wouldnt want anything newer than say mid-late 50's...thanks...Don

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Pete76NY

11-08-2006 12:38:18




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
My opinion is that a Farmall Super C is the best bang for your buck in the pullin' world...they are cheap, easy to move, IH weights are cheap, they are easy to work on/get parts for, and they are competitive in lotsa weight classes: #3500 all the way up to #5000 or even #5500, If a straight H ever beats ya, he's either cheating or has the ultra low 1st gear. If your fortunate enough to find an Oliver Super 66 and have deep enough pockets, they are great too. No favorite colors here, we own 'em all and pull 'em all. Pete

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ShepFL

11-08-2006 10:46:48




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
Welcome to N. FL. I run around in the piney woods of Sanderson (tween Jacksonville and Lake City).

I have been wanting to do some pulling myself but unable to locate any pulls. Local Fair Board is scared to death to sponsor it. I been trying to get something set up in the are and would be interested in meeting once you get settled.

I have 2 stock rigs I want to run
1949 Farmall H
1953 AC WD

Been looking for an Oliver Super 77 or Super 88 but Olivers are VERY scarce in this part of the country.

Drop me a line sometime if you want.

ShepFL AT STARBAND DOT NET

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oldcraneguy

11-08-2006 10:57:56




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to ShepFL, 11-08-2006 10:46:48  
Thanks for the welcome Shep, I got 5 acre in holister, thats about 7 mi. west of palatka, I'l be givin you a shout when I get up there, meanwhile keep pluggin away at folks to do some pullin..... . Don



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buickanddeere

11-08-2006 06:36:09




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
In the stock classes. it's the tracor with the best tires, rim width, tire pressure, tread bar height/angle. With ideal drawbar length and fore/aft weight balance. The little fords can have car engines swapped in, look stock and be revved to 4-5 thousand rpm.



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davpal

11-07-2006 20:58:28




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
The best tractor you can use is right under your nose and you own it already. The 8n ford. They are very competitive if you set them up right. We have a guy around here in michigan that has a very strong 8n and is almost always a winner in his class whether it is transfer sled or stone boat. I pulled my 9n totally stock in Oakley last year on the stone boat and pulled 205% with it without doing ANYTHING to it. Everybody else in my class had weights all over their tractors, front and back, different hitches made up, straight pipes, big carbs, engines that were not stock. The winner pulled 237%. The reason you don't see a lot of 8n's and 9n's pulling is because they are all home doing something constructive, like brushogging, discing a garden, plowing, plowing snow, drilling post holes, hauling dirt, you name it. The reason people use a lot of Old Jd B, A, Allis Chalmers A, B,C, Farmall A, B, is because they have a very limited use for anything else besides pulling a wagon or for parades. Not very utility oriented but they make great pullers. Fords are very utility oriented and make very good pullers too. Tractor pulling is like bracket racing, you don't have to be the fastest or biggest, just be the best one there that day. And even if you loose, who cares? You only get a cheap trophy if you win. No money to be had in that sport. It is all for fun. More people will remember your lone ford at the pull than a sea of orange, green, and red tractors.

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wdTom

11-07-2006 18:11:25




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
I have a WD that I am mostly done restoreing. For the past two years I have been going to 5 or 6 pulls a year around here ( Rhode Island) and pulling in the 3500lbs class, stock, with about a 5 ft chain, using the stock drawbar. All I have done is put the tractor toghther and add a little weight to the back to get it to 3500# with me on it, and it has been winning against Farmalls, Olivers, John Deers, and even a few other orange tractors. The engine is completely stock with the exception of the 1/8" overbore kit. I usually pull about 52 to 5500lbs dead weight on a stone boat. Last pull it pulled 6200 to win again. I always liked orange tractors, and this one is no exception. I haven't needed to do anything to it. On the last pull the front wheels are usually just skimming the ground and I have to steer (carefully) with the brakes, the pulls are usually between 50 and 100ft.

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low budget

11-07-2006 17:30:57




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
Pick a tractor you like and are familar with operating. Be safe and have fun with your buddies, dont worry about winning. A bunch of my friends and I go together to a few local pulls. We have IH, JD, Allis,Case, Massey and Oliver.Whatever we run on our farms. We dont worry about what the guys with money and hobby tractors do (not that there's anything wrong with them having fun too) We just care how we do against each other. And you know what? We have fun and crowd can see it. Over a period of time each of us has had a chance at "bragging rights"

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kopeck

11-07-2006 17:02:19




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
I'm a Farmall man my self so I would suggest something red. That being said in some of the larger antique classes the Olivers really do well. I haven't seen a Deere do all that well lately. I don't really have anything against the JDs, just telling you what I've seen.

In the smallers classes ACs and Farmalls were doing well.



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HAPPY DEERE

11-07-2006 16:16:10




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
all right heres my $0.02 you need to find a pulling club or orginization near you and get a rule panthlet aqsk some of the members what they are running and what does good i ave a john deere a 1951 model for the stock pulls around here and everyone says an farmall m will touch it but ive never seen one do it i also use an oliver super 88 diesel and it does amazing first thing you need to do thogh is find a place to pull and watch a couple of the pulls and meet the fokes. and the only thing your 8m is good for is for small work not pulling.

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Dave Sherburne NY

11-07-2006 14:41:32




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
My Cockshutt 30 is a consistent winner or maybe an Oliver 66 both 3750 class. 0r an Allis CA. Kid up the road uses a CA 2750 lbs not to many tractors to pull against so I took my Farmall Super A, weighed 400 lbs more than him and he still beat me by quite a bit. I beat the Ford 9n that out weighed me by almost 1000 lbs. You can see we pull for the fun of it. We were all in the 2750 class. Another problem around here is most pulls start at the 4500 lb class because they use the transfer machines for modified tractors and they can't be light enough for anything less than 4500.

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johndeereman

11-07-2006 14:39:47




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
im partial to the deeres myself but cant afford one for pullin so i got a jd b for show and parades and a dc case for pullin completely stock they will out pull a stock farmall m ive pulled up to 7500 with mine on hard clay and spunn out motor hasent been touched the only thing im going to do to it is put a set of firestones on it. at our pull the only stock tractor that even competes with the dc"s is a farmall 460 there is more that beat me but they aint even close to stock.

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old

11-07-2006 13:59:52




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
Find your self a good old Oliver 77 and have fun with it. There not a real big tractor but sure do have a lot of pull to them for there HP. Plus you can find them from $750 in ruff shape but running up to around $4000 is all tricked out for pulling



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85_Ranger4x4

11-07-2006 12:47:08




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
A WD-45 is a tough contender set up right. They have a lower first gear than a WD, and alot more motor stock (45 hp in a 4000lb tractor is tough to find). Trannys and differentials are pretty tough, been pulling mine in div II for 5 years after 30 years of farming and haven't had any problems yet (knocking on wood) Olivers (77 and 88) are a good off breed too, and the diesels are fun to watch. It gets old at a pull to watch 20 tractors of 2 different models battle for 3 hours, I like variety and to drive something alittle different myself.

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Steve from mo - dangit!

11-07-2006 12:27:40




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to oldcraneguy, 11-07-2006 11:57:45  
Look around at what people are running and which tractors do well. You also have to decide what class you want to pull in and observe who does well in that class. Run what he runs.

I am really partial to the Farmall M but I doubt you could beat an AC WC with a combine motor for low-buck pulling. That"s assuming they are relatively plentiful where you will be moving to.



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B-maniac

11-07-2006 19:04:47




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to Steve from mo - dangit!, 11-07-2006 12:27:40  
As you can tell,I'm a little partial to JD "B",s. You can get a descent,late styled one ('47-'52)for $1500-$2000. They weigh approx. 4000#,are an excellent fit for the 4500# classes. Even without any added weights they are built with more %age of their weight on the rear than the others. They have an ultra low low gear (1.5mph),will lug down to 600-700 rpm and not stall. Another thing about a hand clutch tractor. You can have a foot on each brake right from the git-go so you don't get the ole "one tire spin out". With a foot clutch,sometimes by the time you let out the clutch and get that foot on the brake it's allready too late. These stock tractors don't have locked rear ends and I see so many pullers wait til it's too late to even get their feet near the brakes for equal tire spin. Anything you choose will be a lot of fun. I just am a little partial to the JD late "B". Happy Pullin'!

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oldcraneguy

11-08-2006 11:24:11




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 Re: Best beginners pullin tractor? in reply to B-maniac, 11-07-2006 19:04:47  
Well thamks everyone for your imput, I think I'll have to find someplace where there pullin and decide from there, while I hadnt thought about using the 8n now that I think about it there are a whole bunch of them in the area just that Ive seen, might even have an "N" class somewhere....Don



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