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bruiser

11-10-2006 14:48:31




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some teenagers thought it would be funny to mess with my truk and ended up frying the electrical stystem in it and catching it on fire i know who did it and i called the cops they just kinda look and took it on file (((would say something about the great state troopers but women and children read this))) and when i confronted them and there parents they go do you have any proof only when i here them bragging about getting away with it just wondered if theres anything i can do dont really think i should mess with their truck as that makes me as low as them i can understand pranks but this one went to far any advice would be appreciated.

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Popo tractor owner

11-12-2006 19:57:48




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 Well, as a Detective Sergeant with a large PD..... in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
I've got a couple of questions...

How do you know these kids did it? Did you see them? Did they admit to you that they did it? Are there any witnesses? Is there any evidence (prints, video)? Or is this a gut feeling because they are the neighborhood $hitheads?

Here's the deal, you and I can know in our hearts that the kids did it but being able to prove it in a court of law is a whole different ball game. If there is no evidence, short of the kids jumping up on the detective's lap and admitting that they did it there is little that can be done to solve the case. Ya it sucks, but that's the way the court system works.

As far as the cop just taking a report, ya that's what the beat officers do. Once the report is filed some supervisor will read it and look at the "solubility factors" (how likely will the case result in prosecution if it's assigned to a Detective?). If there isn't much to go on it won't be assigned and that's the end of the story.

Again it sucks, but unfortunately the cops can't win every case.

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Arizona Bob

11-11-2006 15:44:24




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
Listen to Bret & Coflyboy. I"ve got a little over 20 years in law enforcement and it can make a difference talking to a supervisor. Ask for a copy of the investingating officer"s report. See what he said and what he says you said, assuming he didn"t ask you to complete a statement. If you think you"ve being given the runaround, call the internal affairs unit and make a complaint.

Pressing charges is something that the prosecutor"s office does. What the victim of a crime does is aid in the prosecution by making statements and testifying. As a practical matter, if the victim won"t aid in the prosecution the case is probably not going anywhere.

Most police agencies like to solve crimes and make arrests. It drives up their stats and makes everybody look good.

Hope you get a favorable outcome to your situation.

Bob

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730virgil

11-10-2006 19:46:38




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
former b-i-l had parked his van when woman dressed to nines and wearing fur coat parked next to him so close he couldn't get out driver door . he asked her to please move over so he could get out . she flipped him off and left . b-i-l had cup of tobacco juice on dash board that somehow got spilled on roof and hood of her caddy .



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John S-B

11-10-2006 17:10:48




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
Your local fire department or State fire marshall should also get involved. I'd put as much heat on them and their parents in as many directions as possible. Where do the parents work? If you can, put the word out so their business will suffer if it's something that they own.



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Bret4207

11-10-2006 16:31:59




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
Having been a cop for 20 years I can offer this advice. Go see the cop you talked to"s supervisor. Cases like this where you "know who did it" aren"t necessarily easy to work. The law requires a bit more than than heasrsay evidence. Talk to the supervisor, tell him what you know and go from there.



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135 Fan

11-10-2006 19:41:48




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to Bret4207, 11-10-2006 16:31:59  
There is some good advise here. My question is, Why should he have to talk with a supervisor? Aren't all cops supposed to trained to handle these kind of things? They show up at the door, the parents aren't going to be so quick to dismiss it. All they have to do is talk about the penalties without accusing anyone. By the time you go to the supervisor, the kids figure out a good alabi. Not meaning to sound like I'm against the police but it seems sometimes they aren't there to serve. My mom had a bad experience with the police. She was renting out the 2 other rooms in her apartment. Her name was on the lease and the owner OK'd it. She went away for the weekend and they changed the locks on her and wouldn't even let her get her things. Even with a police escort they wouldn't let her in. The cops were no use. I went and talked to an officer at a station near me. He said they can't keep her stuff. If they feel she cheated them and owe them money, they have to sue her. I went with my mom to the station in her area to the head supervisor and even mentioned what I was told at a different station. He did absolutely nothing! My mom was out thousands of dollars worth of furniture and bedding and even her golf clubs and computer. Since you are a policeman, could you explain why. My mom didn't owe them anything, they decided to deal directly with the owner and he went along with it. Sorry if I went off topic but since there is a cop on line, I thought I'd ask. Thanks Dave

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Stumpalump

11-10-2006 16:18:47




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
Had kids messing with my mail and found out who did it. I had a juvenile detective explain to the parents the ramifications of dealing with the postmaster and his fed buddys. Maybe you could just ask the juvy cops to talk to the parents and it will at least make the kids think.



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Midwest redneck

11-10-2006 15:49:04




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
I agree with Coflyboy but I would also put a posting in your local paper that says "$300 reward for the infomation leading to the arrest of the person or persons that destroyed Bruisers truck at xyz address last week" That posting may generate a squeeler and maybe a confession. Kids usually brag about vandalism. My 2 cents.



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coflyboy

11-10-2006 15:39:31




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
If you are making an insurance claim be sure to advise them of your suspicions. They have ways and means to get things done.
Also, if you ever think you are not getting a fair shake from a police officer, ask right then and there that you want to speak with their supervisor. That's more effective than it may sound.



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135 Fan

11-10-2006 15:31:50




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
Go to the police head office and talk with the top cop. Tell him you want to press charges. Even if they brought the vandals in to question would probably scare the daylights out of them. What do their parents seem like? Responsible parents would clear it up and pay for damages. If not that's probably where the kids get it from. A friend of mine once had some stuck up woman in a lincoln open her door into his old rusty beater. He said "You didn't need to do that" she just stuck her head up and said "I'm in a hurry". When she came back out, she had to call a tow truck. He not only let the air out of her tires, he through away the valve cores. Didn't wreck her car and was a little harsh but I bet that woman was bitching to her husband for weeks. That's probably where her money came from. Most working woman are pretty reasonable. Not this one. Dave

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RP2

11-10-2006 14:54:34




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 Re: teenager messin around in reply to bruiser, 11-10-2006 14:48:31  
Talk to your prosecutor



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