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Allan In NE

11-18-2006 03:42:46




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Hi All,

When I was a boy, this is how my family put up hay. Without the luxury of the barn, of course. :>)

Allan

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jon holt

11-18-2006 18:46:20




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 antique hay baling in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
I can remember my dad telling stories of having to ride on the back of a baler with my grandfather to tie bales and whenever a snake or hornet came throught they were always on grandpas side. Dad would always laugh as grandpa would jump and run off.



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VernMN

11-18-2006 18:16:39




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
We made loose hay until 58, using the hay loader to load on the hay rack and slings and hay carrier for unloading in the barn. Cousins had the Case wire hand tie baler and no one could see what benefit it was due to the number of people involved and dirt to the poor workers. There was one Allis round baler that gave way after a year to a New Holland. The John Deere 14 T sort of revolutionized hay baling and everyone seemed to get one. We got ours in late 58. That eneded loose hay making.

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coflyboy

11-18-2006 16:25:23




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
Allan, now you went and did it. I'm just gonna hafta tell ya.
In the early 40's we had a F-12 Farmall. We pulled a flat bed trailer to the hay field and loaded it by hand with pitch forks. I was around five then so my job was to stomp the hay down on top of the wagon. We then hauled it to the barn, backed it in and hooked the F-12 to a rope which was connected to a block and tackle pulley device. One end of the rope was connected to a single pointed harpon device which was inserted as far as possible into the middle of the hay on the wagon. Attached to the harpon was a handle which extended a barb into the hay at the bottom of the harpon. A rope was attached to the barb handle. When all was set the F-12 pulled the rope through the pulley device. The harpon went up and sideways above the 'hay mow' where at the right moment the barb was tripped and the hay fell into the hay mow.
My job was to tromp down the hay in the hay mow. Since I was just five I didn't always get out of the way when the hay fell. All came to a stop until they dug me out.
On this forum I have not heard the term 'hay mow' or heard described the harpon device that we used. Maybe I didn't recognize the name but would be interested in hearing about the device. Maybe the term 'hay mow' is a Dutch term.
Sorry about the long post but it's Allan fault. He went and posted that picture.

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MF294-4

11-18-2006 15:15:20




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
Never seen any hay stacked. Started helping with hay in the early 60's. Had a IH wire tie baler with a engine on it. Pulled it with a IH B most of the time, though it was a load for it.Finally got a New Holland hayliner 78 I think, that was a baler. Put hay up in a big barn with hay hooks and a track down the center. Used a B to pull it up too. We used B's to mow,rake,bale and haul. Took a large crew. My brother just buys all his hay now. Can't find the help or to much work.

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11-18-2006 08:24:57




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
HEY ALLAN buddy
ARE we makeing hay today or snow balls?
GETTING a little sun today? 50 degree.
Hope you and all the other guys have a great day.
THANKS for the pictures boys.
BILL



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Rauville

11-18-2006 07:39:26




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
You know that almost looks as easy as the new "modern method" of working with hay!☺
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MN Bob

11-18-2006 06:54:41




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
Yep; Helped some at a neighbors way back as a youngster. At our place we had the pitch fork and wagons, then the grapple. I often got stuck in the hay mow with rock salt. Memories-- Bob



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Allan In NE

11-18-2006 06:58:55




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to MN Bob, 11-18-2006 06:54:41  
I like to say:

"Right now is a memory under construction". :>)

Allan



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Tim Shaw

11-18-2006 06:40:07




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
We stacked with a slide stacker until '91. Been using big round bales since then. We always called the type of stacker in the picture an overshot. I've heard people call slide stackers beaver slides.



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BarryfromIA

11-18-2006 06:24:23




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
Dad had Jayhawk stackers. First ones had a cable lift, later ones where hydraulic. He had a sort of ring with his brothers and some nieghbors and pushed it around with a Case VC and later on a VAC with live hyd and 3point. Starting in the early 60s we had a Case 200 small square baler.



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Steven@AZ from ND

11-18-2006 06:58:59




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to BarryfromIA, 11-18-2006 06:24:23  
Yep, Dad always talks about stacking with the cable type Jayhawk on the front of the Farmall B. If you didn't trip it just right it wouldn't be high enough when you got to the stack and you had to back up and drive around some more to get it higher.

Built stacks out in the fields and then cut them apart and hauled them in later in the fall. Lots of work compared to sitting in our air conditioned tractors these days!

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BarryfromIA

11-18-2006 20:27:19




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Steven@AZ from ND, 11-18-2006 06:58:59  
Dad also said the dog that held up the load on the cable lift sometimes got out of adjustment and would not hold up the load causing it to drop like a stone. I guess sometimes it caught the load part of the way down which could bend things up. This was pre osha.



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Pitalplace

11-18-2006 06:04:55




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
We still stacked most of your hay until about 72 or 3. Both prairie hay and alfalfa using a John Deere 70 with a f10 (I still have both) and a hay cage. This was a large cage that you just dumped the hay in then it came apart and pulled out around the stack. You then topped of the stack with the loader. We also put up a 1000 small round bales with a allis baler.



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RJ-AZ

11-18-2006 05:35:51




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
I missed that overshot stacker circus by three years. Most everyone had gone to F10 Farmhands and Hydraloader by the time I was old enough to hit the fields. I did stack a lot of loose hay in my younger years though and I mean on the stack with a pitch fork fightin snakes and gnats.



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Tom R Ne

11-18-2006 04:06:59




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 Brings back memories! in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
We always had hay grapples that ran on a track the length of the barn, the system was rigged with ropes and pulleys: But after the barn was full we used a stacker just like that to stack in the field. The rest of the equipment was Dump Rakes, hay sweeps. As time went on the Rakes, and Sweeps were run by tractor but the stacker and grapple were always ran by horses.



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Allan In NE

11-18-2006 04:17:58




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 Re: Brings back memories! in reply to Tom R Ne, 11-18-2006 04:06:59  
Yep,

Do you remember buckin' up the bottom of the stack with the sweeps? And building that damned "roof" on the stack? Don't forget those corners. Had to be perfect.

The first day I ever saw a round baler run, I thought fer sure that I had just been "delivered" out of the jaws of the monster. :>)

Allan



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Nebraska Cowman

11-18-2006 03:49:39




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 03:42:46  
How in the world and what the hay?????
Wher e is that picture taken? I see mtns in the backgraound. And look at that barn, don't remember seeing one with the gable extended like that. And from the looks of the roof it was an old barn ten already. Must have been a looooong tine ago? So tell us the story Allan please.
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Allan In NE

11-18-2006 04:06:36




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 11-18-2006 03:49:39  
I was just snoopin' around on the 'Net and ran across that picture of the stacker. Think this one was taken in Oregon or some darned place.

We just built stacks out in the field and they were huge! Built my last haystack in 1972.

What the picture doesn't show is those poor devils on the receiving end. Now, that is work, no other way to slice it and, when the snakes came in with the load, they were always mad! :>)

There used to be one of those barns down here on the river; don't know if it is still there or not, but that was an experience being up in that loft. The guys doing the stacking inside had to carry the hay back and throw 'er all up into an inside stack by hand with a pitchfork.

Whew! Blessed be the round baler. :>)

Allan

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IaGary

11-18-2006 04:35:39




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 04:06:36  
Mornin Allan

Just amazes me that you still put up loose hay in 1972.

Loose hay ended here in the 40's and 50's.

But it was all put in a barn.With the bales more pounds would fit.

I suppose with the open air, storage space was not an issue.

But we baled our first rounds in 73 when the barn got full of squares.
Gary



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Allan In NE

11-18-2006 06:07:25




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to IaGary, 11-18-2006 04:35:39  
Well, it is like Tom said.

The first baler I ever laid eyes on was also one of those gizmos where the fellas had to sit back there and knot the wire.

My dad did that once on 10 acres, 'bout 1952, '53 or so.

After that one cutting, we were all totally convinced that it was a sure sign and proof positive that there had to be some in-breeding going on somewhere in that guy's family who owned that baler.

Too darned much work! Way, way easier to run the pitchfork. Hence the reason we dove head-long into the Farmhands and loose hay. :>)

Allan

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Tom R Ne

11-18-2006 04:33:59




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 04:06:36  
Yep:

The first time I was ever around a baler my granddad had a custom baler come in with (if I remember correctly) a Case wire tie that 2 guys (the ones that drew the short straws) sat on seats beside the bale chamber and pushed the wires through and then twisted the wire by hand. Not many of the small round Allis balers here in our area of eastern Nebraska. And of course the big round and square bales was much later on.

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Larry-Tx

11-18-2006 04:23:25




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 04:06:36  
Yep, drivin the team pullin up the hay was my job when I was a little squirt. The feller on the right is leavin to get another sweep full. Gives me shivers thinkin about those days.



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Lou

11-18-2006 07:09:44




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Larry-Tx, 11-18-2006 04:23:25  
This is a real interesting post in particular the time line your all talking about. I was born in 1944 and about 1954 or so started helping out on farms in my area of central New York state. All the farmers in my area were making square bales, did balers come to the west later than the east?



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Allan In NE

11-18-2006 07:21:13




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Lou, 11-18-2006 07:09:44  
"Rejected" is the word you're looking for. :>)

Allan



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steveormary

11-18-2006 10:46:07




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to Allan In NE, 11-18-2006 07:21:13  

Dad did the stacking,Sis drove the stacker tractor and I run the hay sweep. Dad had a certain way of stacking so I got out of that job. Then Dad bought a used F-10,mounted it on the TE-20 Ferguson and later the TO-30. And later on bought a used Cockshutt 30 with a F-10 on it so he wouldnt have to change heads. It wasnt untill the late 1980"s we went to the large round bales. steveormary

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Charley hellickson

11-18-2006 23:33:07




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 Re: Makin' Hay in reply to steveormary, 11-18-2006 10:46:07  
Hi. My grandpa Rector was born in 1890 in the MO. Ozarks near Oak Hill north of Cuba. He moved to Coon Rapids IA. with five kids and a team of horses and equipment in 1929, two years after grandma died having a baby, my uncle. Sometime in the thirties he bought a John Deere GP tractor. He said if you came to a mud hole you coulnd't slow down,you had to get thru it. there wasn't anything around to pull you out. He also had a stationary wire tie baler and did custom baling out of the stack. My mother, now 85, told me stories about baling. I think it was a wooden baler. There was a wooden platform on top, a man stood up there with a pitchfork and pitched the hay and straw into the plunger. Guys standing on the ground pitched the stuff up onto the platform. Mother and her older brother tied the bales. Mother sat on the outside and poked the wires back thru the bale to the other side, the inside,to her brother who tied the wires. She still knows how to block and tie bales. She said the inside was dustier than the outside. Mother also told me one time the guy who was taking the bales away went to P. and the bales started piling up. She got up and went back and threw the bales out of the way. The guy came running back, didn't think she should be doing that. She said it didn't bother her, it needed to be done. Mother was born March 1921.

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