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old

12-02-2006 15:19:20




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Well yesterday my snow plow tractor wouldn't start till I played with it a bit and used starter fluid. So last night I took one of my Halegen drop lights and set if up to face the radiator and today even when it was colder then yesterday it started right up like it was 70 out instead of 15. Figured telling you guy this might help some one else down the road. I would think also any light would help but the halegen being a hotter light sure did help it out a lot. By the way this is on a Ford 841 but should work on any tractor or even car or truck. I set it up so it would shine at the bottom of the raidiator

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Kent in KC

12-04-2006 06:09:54




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 Cats! in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
Be sure to check under the hood before you fire ole Betsy up. That nice warm engine is a haven for cold cats. Nothing like REEEEAAARR!!! and some thrown fan belts first thing in the morning (followed by a little cat ghost with wings floating skyward). I leave my hood popped as a reminder to look. Ah, winter.



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Hal/WA

12-02-2006 19:56:33




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
I like the lower radiator hose heater that I put on my 641Diesel. I don't know the wattage, but at zero, the diesel tractor will start easily if the heater has been plugged in for an hour or two.

It was easy to install. I just cut the lower radiator hose up near the engine and then cut out an appropriate sized piece of the hose. The heater pushes into the hose and then you tighten the clamps. the only remaining thing to do is to route the cord where it won't be damaged. I think my heater cost about $20 or $25.

I don't think the diesel would start at all without an engine heater in the coldest part of winter. The glow plugs will work, but they take a whole bunch of battery power when it is really cold. I think the plug in heater makes more sense. Good luck!

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msb

12-02-2006 19:17:10




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 Reminds me of when I was a kid in the 40s. in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
It was not uncommon to see car radiators covered with those big old overcoats of the day.Not only were the coats used at night ,but also when the car was going down thew road.Kept the owner from buying alcohol (if he could even get it duing WW2. Just used water and then drained it when the car was parked.



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Hard Knocks

12-02-2006 17:48:57




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
Looks like a lot of trouble to avoid the rather small expense of a good block heater which will do a much better job and heat the engine in an hour or two.



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old

12-02-2006 18:36:59




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to Hard Knocks, 12-02-2006 17:48:57  
What trouble, a cord the same you would need any how and the cost is less then 1/4 of that for a block heater plus the ford wasn't made for one in the first place so its not that easy to put one on. Last block heater I got cost me over $40 and the halegen work light was only $12 so you figure it out.

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Hard Knocks

12-03-2006 09:52:21




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 18:36:59  
The bulb in that light will cost nearly as much as you paid for it to replace and they don't last very long.I have block heaters that are over 20 years old that work perfect.Also the block heater gets far more of the wattage it draws where its needed,heating the water than the light which is using a good portion to heat the atmosphere.The more efficient the heat source the less time it takes to heat the water which means less plug in time.

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old

12-03-2006 10:04:51




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to Hard Knocks, 12-03-2006 09:52:21  
Don't get me wrong a block heater is a good thing but, when you need the tractor and your snowed in the halegen light works just great and works well. Which in my case is what happened so I had to have the tractor and didn't have the option of installing a block heater plus don't have the $$ for a block heater. All the tractors I have tried to start on the place would start but that didn't help when none of them will work to plow the snow but this ford which has the snow plow set up on it so it was a case of HAVE TO make run not well if it does fine if it doesn't fine. Also NOTE the subject line IF THIS WILL HELP SOME ONE

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varmint

12-02-2006 16:59:56




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
when its down around 20 below and such sometimes ether will frost the spark plugs on a gas engine so you can run the air from a heat gun or hair dryer in the intake for atime and she will start.



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Duner Wi

12-02-2006 20:02:22




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to varmint, 12-02-2006 16:59:56  
That works on my smoker too.



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No tools

12-02-2006 15:55:17




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
I have seen that done last winter.
Few years back we got the bright ideal put a space heater in front of dozer radiator.
well it done great (BUT) we got it to close??
we melted the cores.
have good"n" Bill



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phillip d

12-02-2006 17:20:06




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to No tools, 12-02-2006 15:55:17  
Hey,we did that a few years back too Bill on a '90 F150,now we have the droopiest grill in the community lol phill lol



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Pappy

12-02-2006 15:54:37




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
I used to put a drop light with a 100 watt bulb under the battery rack on my old ford truck. (all metal rack) It would start instantly at any temperature.



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iowa_tire_guy

12-02-2006 15:23:13




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
Now that is some good thinking. Thanks Old.



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old

12-02-2006 15:39:24




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 12-02-2006 15:23:13  
Also costs a lot less then a block heater. I picked up 2 of them for around $12 each a couple years ago and they are nice to have around



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Allan In NE

12-02-2006 15:22:47




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to old, 12-02-2006 15:19:20  
You Bet!

When I was a boy, I used to use a 100 watt drop light draped over the fender of my old '56 Chevy overnight in the cold weather.

Worked like a charm. :>)

Allan



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Jim West TN

12-02-2006 19:02:38




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to Allan In NE, 12-02-2006 15:22:47  
Some charcoal in a pan works.
Jim



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Crem

12-02-2006 23:47:28




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to Jim West TN, 12-02-2006 19:02:38  
Yeah, but pull the pan out before you start the engine or the sparks will fly when the fan blows on the hot charcoal.



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Richard G.

12-03-2006 05:49:26




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to Crem, 12-02-2006 23:47:28  
My dad said they used to heat water in the kitchen on the fireplace and pour in the Model T To help crank it in the winter. I sometimes jack up one rear wheel on my 1917 T and put in high gear to make it crank easier in cold weather. I think I will try a halogen lamp this winter.
Thanks for the idea.



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David Snipes

12-05-2006 10:43:29




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 Re: Maybe this will help some one else in reply to Richard G., 12-03-2006 05:49:26  
I new a guy in Montana who drained the oil from his truck and kept it on his wood stove all night. He would then pour it back in every morning. I don't think he had any electricity.



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