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OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas

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Buzzman72

12-08-2006 11:11:55




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Folks, in case you weren't aware of it, there's an organization that works to provide flights to bring American servicemen on leave home for the holidays. With the help of dedicated Americans just like you, since 2001 the folks at www.lbeh.org has been taking cash donations and donated airline miles to provide our military members with tickets so that they might be able to spend the holidays with their families.

So today I'm asking you to at least go to the website, and look at what these people are doing. Then I ask that you look into your heart, and see if there's any way you can help by making a contribution to such a worthy cause. We all support our troops...but here's a chance to turn your money--or unused airline miles--into a Christmas gift that some service member will really appreciate.

And if you're unable to give, I'd like to ask you to pass the website along to all the people on your email list, in hopes that others will have the opportunity to bring some holiday cheer into the lives of the folks who protect us 24/7.

But don't delay--I've been told that some of these trrops need to have their travel itinerary turned in by THIS SUNDAY!

Thank you for your help with this, on behalf of the military personnel and their families.

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buickanddeere

12-08-2006 17:47:44




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 11:11:55  
Sure if you want to pay double the current pricee for gasoline and diesel at the pumps. You can't have it both ways.



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bradk

12-08-2006 16:15:27




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 11:11:55  
WHY?
Isn't that the chance they take (to get sent off for war) when they sign up for the military?
They got the sign-on bonus and school paid for,not us!
Not trying to be unpatriotic,but come on,begging for $$$!!!



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dr.sportster

12-08-2006 18:52:31




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to bradk, 12-08-2006 16:15:27  
Maybe we should think of them as those whos parents could not afford to send them to college.Not all branches of the service give "sign on money".Its just an organization [hopefully legit]trying to help them like the mom and her church sending her son the silly string for trying to locate trip wires.They said "air miles" too.Maybe someone is not using them and would gladly give them to a serviceperson.Lighten up.Do you live near a base where some jarhead kicked your butt in a local bar?If they are so fortunate and well off join them yourself.The military personnel is not begging for money.Now the cops wanting me to donate for bulletproof vests,well go buy your own job tools.Thats a scam.

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bradk

12-08-2006 19:32:23




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to dr.sportster, 12-08-2006 18:52:31  
Dr.sportster,are our girly undies in a bundle tonight?
I think the "lightening" up needs to come from your end.
Send them silly string?



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dr.sportster

12-08-2006 19:43:37




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to bradk, 12-08-2006 19:32:23  
First you insult the men and women who serve America then you insult me.As far as the silly string its what the troops in Iraq have requested for use in detecting trip wires it was on the news.Churchs are collecting it and volunteer plane owner/ pilots deliveriing it.If you no someone over there send them some.



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bradk

12-08-2006 20:11:47




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to dr.sportster, 12-08-2006 19:43:37  
I never insulted and would never intentionally do so to the people serving.Only in your eyes.

Actually,you started the insults by asking if "I got my butt kicked by a jarhead"for starts.
Just asking about silly string.Didn't know that.
I learned something today.



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dr.sportster

12-09-2006 06:36:50




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to bradk, 12-08-2006 20:11:47  
The woman who started it for her son has a whole garage full of it waiting for shipment.When she first told her pastor he laughed.Then she told him what it was for ,so he made an anouncement in church.Then people strated collecting it.Then it made the newspaper and evening news.Now the whole state is almost sold out. Church has a whole room full too.It is also considered hazordous for the commercial airlines so then pilots volunteered delervery to Iraq.It is mostly used inside house searchs as the troops encounter very fine hard to see tripwires and it wont set off the device.Helps keep them alive.Stupid silly string becomes a lifesaver.Sorry for the other comment I took your first post the wrong way.

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dr.sportster

12-08-2006 15:03:43




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 11:11:55  
Send them silly string.



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old

12-08-2006 11:41:23




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 11:11:55  
Sounds like a scam to me. I know when I was in if you went on leave and where over seas you could catch a plane back to the U.S. and it didn't cost you a dime. They take you over and they bring you back or at least that was the way it was back when I was in



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Jay (ND)

12-08-2006 12:19:19




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to old, 12-08-2006 11:41:23  
When I was in, we could catch a military hop for about $10 - but you didn't know when or if you were going to get a flight. If you wanted to fly commercial, you had to pay like everyone else.

I must not of behaved, because I never got a leave over Christmas.



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old

12-08-2006 13:06:46




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Jay (ND), 12-08-2006 12:19:19  
I never did either but being on a ship you didn't get leave till you got back to your home port of you had a family emergecy. But if something did happen they put you on a plane and sent you to what ever was your home base from there it was your problem



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Buzzman72

12-08-2006 12:00:26




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to old, 12-08-2006 11:41:23  
My son's in the Army Reserve stationed at Ft. Hood, TX right now. If the Army calls him up for duty, they pay for his flight; but as far as his Christmas leave, he's been told that he either has to use this group or HE PAYS to fly home for the holidays. He's applied for a flight with this group, but they haven't come up with tickets for him yet.

Otherwise, he's gonna have to pay around $200 to ride the "Silver Dog" [Greyhound]home. Evidently NOBODY lets 'em fly for free anymore.

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old

12-08-2006 13:08:51




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 12:00:26  
Ya thats what is called home base so yes he would have to pay from there. Now if he was over seas they most of the time will ship them to there home base on a Mil hop for little or nothing



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D Slater

12-08-2006 13:55:58




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to old, 12-08-2006 13:08:51  
I was in the Army around 35 years ago and if I wanted to fly somewhere on while on leave I had to pay for it.



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Buzzman72

12-08-2006 12:20:51




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 More Info from Site's FAQ's in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 12:00:26  
Q. Doesn't the government pay for deployed troops to fly home?

A. Yes. As of early 2005, Congress passed legislation to fully fund the cost of airfare for those troops deployed to Iraq & Afghanistan when they come home for their mid-tour R&R. This was a good thing! But we still have troops who have either just come back from deployment, or plan on being deployed in spring of 2006, but can't afford to be with their families for the holidays this year. Those are the main people we focus on, in addition to the "everyday troops" who are stationed in various non-hostile zones throughout the country.

Q. Can't military personnel fly for free on military planes?

A. Space-Available travel (or Space-A for short) is a program started way back in the 1970's when the military had lots of open bases around the country and around the globe. Each day hundreds of flights with thousands of seats were flying virtually everywhere. But during the 1990's 60% of the military bases in the United States were closed, along with 50% of our overseas bases. To compound matters, fundings for training is the first to go after budget cuts, that means training flights are one of the first "luxuries" to disappear, and with them all the extra seats that would be available to space-a travellers. So now we have less seats on less flights, and those travelling on official business or those on emergency leave are given the highest priority. The lowly (and lesser paid) enlisted personnel trying to visit their familes will be prioritized last, even though they're the ones that can least afford to purchase a commercial plane ticket. So yes, while a recruiter will gladly tell you you can fly anywhere for free, realisticially it's just not a viable option for our younger troops.

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Allan In NE

12-08-2006 11:19:31




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 11:11:55  
Ah, say there Buzz,

I take it that you've never been in the military?

Allan



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Buzzman72

12-08-2006 12:03:38




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Allan In NE, 12-08-2006 11:19:31  
Nope.

Wasn't drafted, and I couldn't see the sense in VOLUNTEERING for the physical and verbal abuse...figured I could get all of both that I could handle by getting married instead.

But as I said, there are no more free flights for the military anymore, apparently...what with all these airlines on the verge of bankruptcy and such [or so they tell us].



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JT

12-08-2006 15:23:43




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to Buzzman72, 12-08-2006 12:03:38  
Buzzman, as for a "free" ride, no, there is none, my step daughter graduated from Marine boot camp in Parris Island in November, she had to pay her way to Camp Lejune after her 10 day leave, but when she got to where whe was going, if she filled out here paperwork correctly(the government with more paperwork) they reimbursed her 80% of her flight cost, that was her understanding, not sure if it correct.
Jim

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37 chief

12-08-2006 18:01:50




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 Re: OT: Help Bring Out Troops Home For Christmas in reply to JT, 12-08-2006 15:23:43  
Out of four years in the Navy in the 60's I was able to be home for Christmas three out of four years. The one I rember most is the last one in 68, in Iwakuni Japan. We had to work as it was a regular day. Stan



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