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diesel supreme vs off road

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ric1

12-26-2006 16:06:59




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does anyonr know the difference between diesel supreme and off road fuel will it hurt to run diesel supreme in a tractor thanks RICK




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D13

12-27-2006 06:54:43




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 Re: diesel supreme vs off road in reply to ric1, 12-26-2006 16:06:59  
Until recently diesel was diesel, when they filled our farm tank with "off road high sulphur" diesel it was road diesel with red dye to show the lack of road tax (watched them dump in the dye as they filled the tanks).

NEW diesel laws going into effect (next week)greatly reduce the allowable sulphur in the fuel. (This is part of the reason for high diesel cost, as the refineries were out of production to be converted to the new fuel.) This will burn OK in the older stuff (not sure about valve and ring lubrication though, migh want to add a conditioner) but old fuel in the new highway motors will plug up the emissions equipment and void warranty. I know that units that come back are going to have the fuel tested so the manufacturer can avoid paying for the $$ repairs.

Good info on #1 and #2 in other post.

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paul

12-26-2006 16:29:45




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 Re: diesel supreme vs off road in reply to ric1, 12-26-2006 16:06:59  
Sounds like just a brand name, so they can claim it is better & can charge more money? There is no official fuel by that name, so no one can really help you.

Diesel #2 is often cheapest, has the best efficiency for summer & hard pulling. It will start gelling below 20 degrees tho, for sure below 10 without additives.

Diesel #1 won't gel in winter (to -60 or something...), but it is more $$$ and has less power, causes the engine to heat more so needed in cold climates, not so good to use in summer.

Often winter diesel fuel is a blend of those 2, put together in a blend apporopiate for your current winter conditions.

A fuel additive such as Power Service can help regular #2 work ok in cold weather down to minus 10 or so. For colder, a blend with #1 included is best.

Off-road diesel fuel and on-road diesel fuel are all the same exact thing made from the above blends. Off-road has a red dye added to it and no road taxes paid on it, the other undyed fuel will have road taxes paid on it. But, _exact same fuel_ made of the above components.

Name-branded fuels, trademarked, as you mention are still #2 and/or #1 diesel fuel. They might have a bit better anti-wear and anti-fouling additives in them. (Basically the Power Service, or etc., additive already in...) But who really knows for sure, mostly marketing hype.

Sure, you can run the trademarked name. I'd want to know what exactly it is, mostly #2 if it is run in summer, some blend close to 50/50 if it is cold. The rest is nice additves I suppose, but probably more marketing than value?

--->Paul

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