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What tractor do you use for hay?

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John S-B

01-18-2007 18:28:54

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Just wondering what you guys (and gals) like to use for haying. The wife got another poodle and in exchange I get a tractor to be named later. Right now I have a narrow front Farmall M to run a 24T baler, a dearborn rake and a 25V sickle bar mower. The mower is a back up for a Hesston self propelled windrower that I just got. Do you prefer a wide or narrow front? I know a live pto would be a lot nicer. I'm thinking one day I might get a moco depending on how well the Hesston works out. I'm going to be doing about 40-45 acres of hay.

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magnus from Sweden

01-20-2007 12:49:08

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

a MF 675 whit tarrup 3,2 meters mover,and a VOLVO BM 2600 whit a JF cm-3200, 3,2 meters mover, and a VALMET 665 whit a NEWHOLLAND 658 roundbaler,and we wrap plastic on to the bales whit an other MF 675 and a spinn-pack 1600, MANGE/SWEDEN;

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Brad Wright of MO

01-20-2007 11:04:16

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Well the Allis Chalmers 200 usually does the bailing with a Vermeer 605 F and also the mowing with a Kuhn disc mower. It also loads hay on a Gooseneck trailer pulled by a Chevy 2500HD. Our Allis D-19 is used to unload hay and is mostly as a backup tractor and could fill in if we needed it to. Our raking and teddering jobs go to a 1953 WD-45. Pretty good little tractor for rakin hay and stuff, dosent use much fuel.

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daves40acre

01-20-2007 05:26:54

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

41 farmall h 467 newholland haybine #15 IH rake? 66 new holland baler

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630man

01-19-2007 19:13:59

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I use a JD 4230 to pull the JD 936 diskbine. I use a JD 2640 to pull the JD 702 V wheel rake. and a JD 4040 to pull the 457 round baler. and a JD 3010 to pull the 336 square baler. John Deere all the way.

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oliver_t

01-19-2007 13:04:52

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Olivers!

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IBorange in TX

01-19-2007 08:24:07

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I use a Ferguson 35 hitched to a IH 1300 sickle mower to lay the hay down,then a Massey Harris 30 tricycle to pull a 8 wheel Vermeer rake. Then use a Belarus 570 to pull a JD 435 rd baler. Hay loaded on transfer trailer w/ IH M. The trailer is pulled w/1939 AC WC. My wife likes the Massey Harris and does all of the raking. Am lucky for that.
Good Luck..... ..

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John - Central NY

01-19-2007 08:24:00

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

MF 3545 mfwd on a Kuhn disk mo-co, MF Super 90 on the rake. MF 1100 on a NH 316 baler. Five steel hay wagons hauled by MF 3680 or 1150. Haylage is done by 3545 on mower. 3680 mfwd on NH 892 chopper. Haul Gehl self unloading wagons with 1100 and 1150. 1130 on Case IH 600 blower.

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barnrat

01-20-2007 05:16:41

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John - Central NY, 01-19-2007 08:24:00

Your man after my own heart. Love to have a lineup of Masseys like that. Especially the 3545 or the 3680

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Doug in IL

01-19-2007 08:01:54

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I use a Jd 4030 or Jd 720 to pull my New Holland 488 Haybine. A Allis D17 series 4 to pull either my New Holland 255 rotary rake or Deere side delivery rake. Jd 4030 pulls the JD 346 baler. And a JD 4020 Powershift pulls the New Holland bale wagon.

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pcy1066

01-19-2007 07:17:33

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

i mow with a disc mower on a 1968 5000 ford diesel, rake with a jd 660 dolly wheel rake behind a 650 kawasaki 4 wheeler, bale with a new hollond round bailor on a narrow front black stripe 966 ih fender tractor, i pick up the round bales with a 3430 new hollond with a 2400 qt bushog loader,

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johndeere plowboy

01-19-2007 07:16:11

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I use a 50 massey ferguson diesel to tedder with , 2640 john deere to rake with, 2950 jd w/cab to bale with. I use a New Idea round baler.

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Craig in WV

01-19-2007 06:14:18

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Allis WD's are hard to beat for haying tractors on square balers, the hand clutches are a blessing! We cut, rake and bale with WD's.
We mow with a HN 460 series bine and Allis 82S field mower, rake with an old Deerborn and bale with a IH 47.

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RickL

01-19-2007 05:58:46

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

pair 4450 Jds one mfwd one without.Both tractors have loaders.New Holland 16wheel bifold wheel rake,1460Jd disc mow co and 570 square baler with hoelscher accumulator,two grapples, 10 donahue implement trailers. the 1460 mowco and 1650 gas Oliver and a 6 wheel inline rake are all for sale if interested.Just going larger in all those units. The next square baler will also be back to a green unit. photo of mowco unit on my website Ricksales.com

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Hard Knocks

01-19-2007 04:26:21

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

To run a square baler an Allis Chalmers WD is hard to beat.They are cheap to buy has a hand clutch that runs in oil so it can be slipped some without hurting it also the hand clutch gives it LPTO and there are parts everywhere for them which you probably won't need anyway as they are super dependable.

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barnrat

01-19-2007 03:21:42

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Massey Ferguson 1100 or JD 2520 diesel either run the JD 710 moco or Reese 10' drum mower or the 335 round baler. Only the 1100 can run the bale wrapper though. Put up about 4-5 cuttings of dry or silage bales on 150 acres.

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Hard Knocks

01-19-2007 02:57:09

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Oliver 1650D on the NH 851 baler,Yanmar 330 to rake,Zebra 3520 to mow,Feeding hay with one of the Long 910's.Also so use AC D19 and Ford 8000 on one of the balers,rake sometimes with the AC CA
and mow with Long 460,AC WD.

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low budget

01-19-2007 02:05:39

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I prefer a wide front, keeps from running on top of the swath or windrow so much. One tractor I like and haven't seen mentioned below is the Ford 5000 or any of its close cousins (6600,7700,etc.) Also a JD 4020, big enough for a discbine at a good clip and still nimble enough to rake hay.

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01-19-2007 01:49:05

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I use a 1855 oliver on the disc bine, a vac case or 230 farmall on the miller rake, a 1655 oliver on the 336 jd baler & a 1650 & sometines a 1750 olivers to pull the loads. i always tease I don't like to pull hitch pins so I am a little overloaded on tractors.

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Don-Wi

01-19-2007 01:06:15

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

It all depends, but ussually we cut our hay with our Massey 285, rake with my Oliver 1600 then use the 285 to bale. We used to rake with our 165, but now it's under a loader so it's a little heavier.

Just this last year we stepped up to a Hesston 1014+2 hydra-swing, 14' cut. Previously we used a New Idea 290 9' haybine. We still use that one for swamps, but man is that Hesston sweet.

We bale with a Massey 12 and we have an old wheel rake, but that thing needs a little attention...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Allan In NE

01-19-2007 00:36:52

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I usually just go out there and fumble around until I find one that will start and all the lights will work. :>(

Allan

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hayray

01-18-2007 22:44:54

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

The narrow front is nicer for raking hay. You for sure need a live PTO, really hard to bale and mow hay without it.

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E.B. Haymakin'

01-18-2007 20:41:49

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

It's not an antique-yet, but I have a Ford New Holland 3010s-42pto for a New Holland 479 Haybine or 451 sickle mower 9'. Also it runs my one, and only baler New Holland 273. I use a Kubota L2050 for my Sitrex 10' tedder, and my 3pt 2-wheel pin rake. One day I would like to find a mid-70s Deere, or IH in the 70 horse range-diesel-just because.

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Mike S 806/H

01-18-2007 20:18:44

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Farmall 400 diesel on the baler (532 Ford or 268 NH) and a Farmall Super C on the 488 NH,

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gold-leaf-deere

01-18-2007 19:40:21

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I liked a Allis Chalmers D-17 Gas Tricycle.

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oleblu

01-18-2007 19:35:41

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

My choice would be either Oliver 88, Super 88 or 880. All have live hyd and live PTO. Been there, done that.

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Jim WJ

01-18-2007 19:35:20

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

For the small square baler and rake
the Case IH 585 works well. It gets lots of hours during haying. Jim WJ

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FreeRanger

01-18-2007 19:26:22

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

1955 Ford 600 model 640 (not big enough but works) with a New Holland 479 Haybine, New Holland 256 rake and New Holland 66 baler (very old). The tractor has enough horse power but not enough weight. Could use more power with the haybine so I hope to have my used New Idea sickle mower working by Spring. Need to replace the homemade metal pitman arm with the proper wooden arm. Seller tells me it will work as is but I don't want to take any chances.

Cutting between 10 and 18 acres depending on the growth and sheep pasture.

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jonathan s

01-18-2007 19:16:39

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

hey john s-b, i dont know if this will help but my older brother and i use a 1949 framall h, i can t remember what the haybine is?, a international 430 baler behind the h and sometimes we use my brothers 706 to bale when we get behind on time.(so the h can do other things in the field) i would think a 450diesel would be good or if u want more hp go with the 560 diesel. i hope this helps.

jonathan s

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sammy the RED

01-18-2007 19:15:28

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

Farmall 350 on New Holland Hayliner.
Farmall 856 on New Holland Round Baler.

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Clark in MO

01-18-2007 19:14:43

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

I use a JD 3020(gas), wide front with a MF 12 baler, NI 302 rake and Case 3206 disc mower. The wide front prevents driving over the windrow from the previous round cutting with the disc mower. The disc mower will bog down the 3020 if the hay is real heavy. If I go to a lower gear then the hay has a tendancy to hang up on the bar. Typically, it is only an issue on the 1st cutting but even then it is more irritation than a problem. Good Luck - Clark

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Wisconsin Cowman

01-18-2007 18:48:44

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Re: What tractor do you use for hay? in reply to John S-B, 01-18-2007 18:28:54

For you I would say a Farmall 560 diesel wide front would be perfect. What I use for making bales is an Oliver 1655 gas. Also for cutting hay too. Sucks fuel like you would not believe. I guess for gas and putting through that kind of work is ok. Something with live PTO would be the best. Or a Farmall 706 diesel would also be a good tractor too. Also to get on the Deere side of it. A John Deere 3020 would also be a perfect tractor. Another Oliver would a 1650. I will see if what other guys think about it. Your M and your 24T is not a bad thing either. I baled for many years like that never had a problem sometimes I still use the M and my 24T.

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