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alg

01-20-2007 16:26:18

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I know this is way off topic, but thier is a wealth of knowledge on this site to tap into.Here goes my question.I recently aquired a 12 yr.old Belgian mare.She came from an Amish farm ,so I don't know her history.She is having a problem with diarrhea,on a daily basis.She will have a few normal b.m.'s during the day and a few very loose b.m's.Have had her tested for everything under the sun,and all is normal.My vet suggests doing away with all grain, she only get a couple of scope's a day.Anyone have any suggestions?

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BobHnwOh

01-21-2007 05:37:46

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

Alg,put apple cider vinegar on her feed from now on,great medicine,Bob.

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Hard Knocks

01-20-2007 23:46:36

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

Did you ask what she was used to eating when you bought her? Give her medium quality grass hay for awhile it'll clear her up most likely.

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Kelly Campbell

01-20-2007 19:42:28

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

I"d take everything away for about 24 hours (provided there is some grass, if not I would only give a little bit of hay) and see what happens, then I would re-introduce feed beginning with the hay, and see how things are going from there. Then after a day or two I would introduce the grain of what ever kind. with a little bit at first and then go from there..Below is a link to a pretty good vet hospital.

Hagyard, Davidson and McGee

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jwal10

01-20-2007 18:48:32

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

You say 2 scoops,2 quarts each,is this sweet feed ie molasass in it? probably not used to that hot of feed. If horse was working, but isn't now it is not able to motabalize it. Sounds like too rich of feed and too much. The amish probably fed whole or rolled grain. Just a thought from some one who has had work horses.

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Ol Chief

01-20-2007 18:38:18

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

If all else fails Call Dr Ed. Sheaffer-Homeopathic Vet.( 717 )838-9563 ,fax 717 - 838-0377 or toll free 1-888 FARM-VET.I have had excellent results when two of our local vets. could not solve my problem .I just consult him on the phone and have had good outcomes each time.

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toolman

01-20-2007 17:08:58

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

If she needs her teeth floated or has another tooth problem , it will cause what you are having.Get a vet or equine dentists who knows what to look for and make sure they know what they are doing. Often she will have problems on hay and be good once she is on pasture, nice soft grass again.Their mouth can go WAVEFORM, or she can have a tooth way in the back causing her problems or just need a good floating.Another thing is she may be wormy and needs to be dewormed.Good luck.

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Allan In NE

01-20-2007 17:13:16

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to toolman, 01-20-2007 17:08:58

Yep,

Good advice. Also, look at the tail; you can usually tell if she is full of worms by that tail.

Allan

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toolman

01-20-2007 17:19:09

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to Allan In NE, 01-20-2007 17:13:16

Yup ,lots of times they,ll rub their tail raw scratchin.

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Gary from Muleshoe

01-20-2007 16:58:16

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

When we used to have a horse that had this problem Dad would put them on grass hay only for a while. Keep the her hydrated as best you can. If it persist you need to get her to a vet soon. Many horses have died from stomach problems. I friend of mine lost a very good Quater Horse because he ignored a problem like this.

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Sandbur

01-20-2007 16:56:45

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

Alg
another thing you can try is get a probiotic and administer that orally. alot of times with an ulcer the acidity of the gut can kill of beneficial bacteria. Try a lactobacillus probiotic with the kaopectate, gastroguard, or tagamet.

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sandbur

01-20-2007 16:46:48

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

Allen,
How are those two little honyaks doing that had the distemper? Just curious

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Allan In NE

01-20-2007 17:03:55

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to sandbur, 01-20-2007 16:46:48

Doin' good. Still got 'em both quarantined off. The little sister gets a runny nose from time to time. Watchin� her; might have to throw some more penicillin at her yet.

Got the little filly all halter/leg broke and sacked out pretty darned good.

Started on the gelding today. Typical wild, crazy indian-reservation horse; has never seen a human. He's coming down fast tho; he just doesn't know it yet. Should have him on the lead at the first of the week.

Got to hurry up and get him calmed down; guy is growing so darned fast, I can see it day to day and I dunno, I think he just might make on he!! of a fine little cow pony. He just has excellent confirmation for a freebe. :>)

Allan

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Sandbur

01-20-2007 17:10:16

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to Allan In NE, 01-20-2007 17:03:55

Glad to hear they are doing well. Thanks for the update.

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Sandbur

01-20-2007 16:44:46

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

Alg
How does this mare act other than the diarhea? Normal? Is she running a temp at all? Is she lethargic? If she seems normal other than the diarhea ,She may have an ulcer. It is hard to diagnose without seeing her. You may try putting her on some Kaopectate 60cc orally 2x/day for a week and see if it helps. If you suspect an ulcer( which can be caused by high concentrate(grain) ration)you need to get a product called gastroguard. The liquid Tagamet also works well, but you can't always find it. try backing off the grain totally as you mentioned and try feeding a good quality grass hay. Not veterinary advice just neighborly advice.

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Allan In NE

01-20-2007 16:47:32

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to Sandbur, 01-20-2007 16:44:46

Yeah,

That "two scoops" of grain has me wondering too. Define scoop.

Allan

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chiefrunamuk

01-20-2007 16:41:29

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

AIG; Years ago we used to give raw eggs to baby calves when they got the scours,usually took a couple days, maybe a different problem. KEN

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Allan In NE

01-20-2007 16:37:15

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 16:26:18

You don't have her on alfalfa, do you?

Allan

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alg

01-20-2007 17:37:30

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to Allan In NE, 01-20-2007 16:37:15

Scope= to about 2 qts..She's on first cut timohty.Have tried,biosponge,halftrack,nalocks.Nothing seems to help.Many fecal tests have been done.No worms,everything comes back normal.Teeth are floated every 6-12 months.We are cutting back on her grain to see it it helps.

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Larry NE IL

01-20-2007 19:38:14

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Re: O.T. Horse problem in reply to alg, 01-20-2007 17:37:30

I believe that your main problem is caused by a change of diet. How far from you was she when you bought her?
As some of the others said, I'd cut the grain and keep her on plain grass hay for awhile. No alfalfa, and plenty of clean water.
Those animals are sometimes like humans. The sudden move from her familar surroundings and change in diet may just have her down a bit.

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