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MRN

02-02-2007 18:43:41

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Just a little rant coming up here, but I'd like to hear what y'all think about this.

My brother who is career military is going to be on a television show talking about part of his profession. I am naturally very proud of my brother and excited that he is going to be on TV, so I tell the folks at the office (an unnamed branch of the federal government). One of the 'people' I work with then asks me, "Are they going to gather his kids around the TV and say 'look there's Daddy killing the enemy?'"

I found this remark very offensive. The only response I could muster was "that's a very strange thing to say" and went about my business.

My question is this, do I have a right to offended or am I just being too darn sensitive?

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.

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rayusmc

02-05-2007 16:01:47

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

I just returned 3 days ago from a year in Iraq. This was my second tour over there and I'll tell you, I am offended. I also know that if he can utter such foolishness and not be jailed or worse, I am doing my job and that I will continue to do. I learned long ago that there is no quota on the amount of knuckleheads we have in this country and I can't change that. I swore to support and defend the Constitution and that document provides for the common defense of our citizens. My hat is off to your brother for doing his duty and doing it well!

Semper Fi.

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two mile

02-03-2007 13:06:14

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

I think that your reply was excellent. There was nothing in that persons statement that had even an ounce of caring for you, your brother, or those kids. In my opinion, they were being insensitive.

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Jon Hagen

02-03-2007 12:55:58

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Best answer I have heard when someone makes a jerk comment like that is to immediatly ask him. "What do you mean by that?". That puts the burden on him to explain his comment. You will find out very quickly if he ment somthing other than what it sounded like he said,or not. Then you can react correctly to his remark.

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bucva

02-03-2007 10:59:28

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

First Thanks to your brother. On the offence part, these are the kind of things that one has to ponder in the heart so to say. One day the true answer and oppertunity will come to you. For now there are ones who can hold their head up in pride and the ones that drop their head in shame.

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varmint

02-03-2007 10:17:42

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

i would have smacked him in the mouth

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1936

02-03-2007 08:46:34

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

How many have known and talked with a tunnel rat? The one I known we don't talk about his military job. Yes job!

A very good argument to start up the draft without the lotto number. That way the shoe can drop at any time between the ages of 18 to 25. Been there and spent my two. Many as I do carry a cross in their heart of a name on the wall.

Case in point I am a retired fed. You could point out the ex military in our work force without asking. In my case 98% of the managers were ex military. The rest were you know job protected.

The last two presidental elections endings were a laugh either by a court or one just jumping to the side. The wheels are ready to fall off the train. Too many bag men making our laws.

What is going on at this time is a great disrespect for the troop on the ground as in the late 60's.

Patton said screw up their day before they screw up your day. That is the way a war runs. The war at the present is similar to when the British were defeated.

Nuff said.

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Joe in MNd

02-03-2007 08:45:37

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

YUP --- YOUR too Sensitive ---- enough said....

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Bill from MA

02-03-2007 08:33:53

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Many people can't separate the people who pledge to defend the country from when & where the people he voted for decided to send them.

No political discussion intended but what ever position you support you have to agree these are two different points.

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HENRY E NC

02-03-2007 07:38:57

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

I would like to ask him to go to A National Cemetary and count the crosses, stars etc. that adorn the graves of men and women who to this point have given their lives to keeep his butt in that chair he sits in. My grandson came home from Iraq in a box(what they could find of him after a direct hit with a RPG) on the day he was supposed to come home for good having sereved in Iraq three times. His daughter will never know her dad but his memory will always with us and we thank them all for keeping us free. (Ex Air force korean war) Keep being proud of your brother as all of us here are. Henry

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Merle Hoppenworth

02-03-2007 07:07:49

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Tell your co worker it's due to thinking like his that it is now legal to burn the flag and illegal to burn leaves.

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Sd pete

02-03-2007 06:22:59

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

When you see your brother tell him thankyou for me.

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rgvtx

02-03-2007 05:53:25

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

My opinion, you did and said exactly the right thing and should just let it go and refuse to stoop to his or her level by bringing the subject back up.
BUT..... ....(meant to be funny)
If you must approach this person again, simply tell him or her: "I'm very sorry I upset you yesterday concerning my comments about my brother appearing on television. I have taken the liberty of contacting our local media outlet concerning your displeasure and they have chosen not to broadcast to your residence so if you do change your mind and want to view it you will have to go to a friend or family members house. I would let you come over to our place to watch it, but my wife thinks you smell bad. I hope that's OK."

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Stumpalump

02-03-2007 05:37:04

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Tell him your real sorry but that you mentioned his comment to your brother. Say I did'nt realize he was getting so upset or I wouln't have given him your name. He should be OK as long as he is not drinking. But just in case he drives a Toyota camry or some other real popular vehicle in your area. Just acked confused and walk away.

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HillsofTn

02-03-2007 05:34:25

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

The following from Samuel Adams sums it up for me. History shows that war and killing are bad things, but it also shows there are far worse things tht can result from lack of courage to defend.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom , go home from us in peace. We ask not your councils or your
arms. Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams

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Mike M

02-03-2007 05:07:09

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

You said the exactly RIGHT response. I wish I could think of stuff like that to say when needed.

Now I do think it is possible ? that they were being sarcastic and also wondered if that was how the TV was going to SPIN this. The TV people are all out to SPIN this war in the worst possible way.

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mike a. tenn.

02-03-2007 04:35:48

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

MRN... it's hard to say what your co-worker meant by that statement. if it was meant to be derogatory, there must be a character flaw in this person so just consider the source, and that source must be pretty shallow. no matter how each individual feels about the conflicts in this world, and the politics behind them, any "thinking person" has to be very proud of our military personel right now, and is behind each and every one of them. those who aren't are obviously NOT "thinking people", so like i said...consider the source.

on the other hand, maybe there was nothing nasty meant by the comment. my own feelings are that the "enemy" over there needs some killing right now...and i'm hoping that no more of our boys get killed, but DO all the killing for a change. it could be that this is the feeling your co-worker's comment sprang from. i'm still very angry about 9/11, and it doesn't bother me a bit to hear death toll numbers on our enemies.

i apologize if i've offended anyone with these comments...but this is the way i feel about it. it's time to get REALLY tough with this enemy.

-mike

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John S-B

02-03-2007 08:35:44

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to mike a. tenn., 02-03-2007 04:35:48

There's no way that was meant as anything other than an insult. Even if a soldier is doing his job properly and killing the enemy who is trying to kill them, it is not something to take lightly. The soldier is still killing another human, and even when justified it can be a heavy burden to a soldier. They will carry that responsibility for the rest of their life. I'm sure I would not have been so calm in my response. That poor excuse for a person should show respect for soldiers who have given their lives or have had to take one.

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MF Poor

02-03-2007 02:41:19

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

We all have our opinions. It"s well within our rights to express that opinion...AT THE RIGHT TIME. And what you heard was the WRONG time. Consider that about half the time people say ignorant things they don"t mean it the way they said it. The other half just likes to hear themselves talk, regardless if their words have any value. Stick with the high road like Paul mentioned. Not only did the person in questions say something that dragged them DOWN, you can show your class and dignity by not making a reply. His comment doesn"t deserve the recognition an answer would give. Just be happy YOU know the difference.

If it makes you feel better, there"s a bunch of us that are just as proud of your brother and damned glad he"s doing his job.....so loudmouths are free to say stupid stuff.

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Hugh MacKay

02-03-2007 01:35:33

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

MRN: As Paul put it, at this point you have the high road. No point in stooping to their level. In other words, don't get angry, GET EVEN. Folks such as your co-workers make a lot of stupid mistakes and say a lot of stupid things. You'll have your chance another time. Don't hurry, make it a triple wammy when you hit them.

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paul

02-02-2007 21:20:42

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

I haven't read the rest of the replies, but I think you gave a most bestest reply, & I think you have every right to feel as you do.

I wouldn't do any more about it, you have the high road at this point. Not worth wasting time on folks who just won't get it.

Pffft on your coworker from me, if that helps. :)

--->Paul

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landlord7012

02-02-2007 20:29:56

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

If you aren't willing to stand behind our military men and women, feel free to stand in front of them!

Thanks to your bro and people like him that s*#thead has the freedom to bang their gums together and spew crap on the rest of us.

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Tom43

02-02-2007 20:25:50

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

This is a tractor forum. Please put political comments on the appropriate forum.

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old

02-02-2007 20:23:26

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

I think I would have told the guy well hes doing his job nothing more nothing less. But this isn't the first war or what ever you want to call it that people didn't like and would look down on the actions of those keeping our freedom. Nam vets got pissed on and spit at for doing what they where told to do.

Hobby farm

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J Bliler

02-02-2007 19:56:51

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Just pass along another "THANK YOU" to him. Some people just never will get why others choose to do the hard job and give everything to people who just do not care. This slob just doesn't get the fact that the military folks JUST FOLLOW ORDERS.

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NC Wayne

02-02-2007 19:45:33

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

You should have told him that yes their daddy is out there killing the enemy and defending their rights as well as the rights of others, including his right to make such a dumb a$$ remark. That said I do think the remark was ment to be insensitive simply because of what was implied. Like others have said I don't know the man but based on the remark I got a bad vibe knowing it was said in that situation.... You should have replied back to him that this country has become way to sensitive and has forgotten that life is not a video game and in a war people are gonna kill and be killed. I believe wether you are for or against the war you ought to be behind the troops 110% and be honored that these people are out there doing what they do. I also believe I any child that has a parent in the military ought to be proud of that fact. That includes the fact that their parent is willing to make the sacrifice of not only being far away from them for long periods of time, but also the sacrifice of having to taking another human life as well as being willing to sacrifice their own life in the name of freedom. I believe if a kid is old enough to understand we have a responsibility to explain all of this to them so they can understand that freedom, as they know it, is never truely free.....Just my .02

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Jeff Oliver

02-02-2007 19:44:48

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

I wasn't there so I can't say how he meant it. Could have been a sarcastic remark aimed at the news media, not like they usually paint a good picture of soldiers.

That being said, if you do not feel that the coment was not made in that sense then I would definatly say you have a right to be offended, I know I am and it is not even my brother.

I guess what really gripes me is the old cliche that those soldiers are the reason he can say that and not be put in jail or worse. Ought to be thankful they are out there doing their job.

Tell your brother I thank him and all the others in the military for the job they do!

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Steven@AZ

02-02-2007 19:38:06

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Tell your brother I'm darn proud of him for providing me with this blanket of freedom that I live, work, and sleep under every day.

As far as the comment about "killing the enemy" - all I can say is that I'm not strong enough to do it, and I'm thankful that there are people out there that can. You have every right to be upset and offended, our military doesn't get half the respect and gratitude it deserves. God Bless America!

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Aaron Ford

02-02-2007 19:52:54

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to Steven@AZ, 02-02-2007 19:38:06

Or pay...

Sorry just had to...

Aaron

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dds-inc

02-02-2007 19:31:23

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

judgement comes from the man above. Don't argue with the fool and the Bible says by doing that, you have heaped boiling water on his head.

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Pajamafied John

02-02-2007 19:25:48

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

That person is not your friend and not much of an American. You have a right to be downright pi$$ed. Thank god for our people in uniform.

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TimS in Mo

02-02-2007 19:07:02

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Could be the guy is an idiot, and insensitive.

Or he could have just been trying to make a joke and it came out all wrong, I've done that before.

Anyhow, be proud of your brother and maybe give that guy the benefit of the doubt, folks can misstate something like that and not know how you interpreted it....

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coup

02-02-2007 18:50:05

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

there is an old saying in these parts and it fits your guy that said it.. SOME PEOPLE ARE SO D-M DUMB...

WE DON'T KNOW THE GUY, SO, HE PROBABLY WASN'T THINKING..... ..

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Allan In NE

02-02-2007 18:49:38

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to MRN, 02-02-2007 18:43:41

Hey Bud,

You'll find that the world is full of fools.

The trick is to keep your chin up, learn to pick 'em out and totally ignore 'em.

You be darned proud of your brother. I am and don't even know the man.

Allan

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Mark

02-02-2007 19:08:59

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Re: OT Something I heard today - am I too sensitiv in reply to Allan In NE, 02-02-2007 18:49:38

Tell your brother I said Thank You for serving our Country and the same to all those who do likewise.

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