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Richard Shanks

03-13-2007 21:02:22




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I wondered if any one knew if bearing grease would turn to dirt and dust after many years. We had the misfortune of two wheel bearings going bad on a head hauler today, the wagon is maybe 20 years old, the dust caps have never been off(judging by the paint) the inner dust seals on both wheels looked good with no rust in the hub. There was just a lot of brownish dusty dirt inside of the hubs of an amount that could have easily been the amount of grease used when the wagon was new. This wagon by its nature is not used a lot at any time of the year so exposure to dirt and mud like a manure spreader or hay wagon hasn't happened. I have seen this sort of thing before but blamed a bad seal and lots of dirty conditions. I would like some opinions on this if there are any. Thanks

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rrlund

03-14-2007 12:05:25




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 Re: bearings in reply to Richard Shanks , 03-13-2007 21:02:22  
I wonder if it matters at all,how much graphite the grease has in it?



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dds-inc

03-14-2007 08:14:10




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 Re: bearings in reply to Richard Shanks , 03-13-2007 21:02:22  
I agree with the solidifying of grease.

I also have old equipment that needed to be taken apart, washed in kerosene, and put back together with new grease.

Remember, if the grease fitting won't take grease, it's time to pull it apart.



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Walt Davies

03-13-2007 23:22:35




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 Re: bearings in reply to Richard Shanks , 03-13-2007 21:02:22  
the old greases would dry up after a few years. The oils that keep them soft will settle out and then the rest will just turn to a hard rusty looking stuff. I have seen large bucket of grease with a lot of the oil in the bottom of the bucket and the top of it hard as a rock. More modern greases will not do this or at least they take longer than we live to do it.
Walt PS Like the guy said you have to clean and grease them once in while.

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Bob

03-13-2007 22:32:41




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 Re: bearings in reply to Richard Shanks , 03-13-2007 21:02:22  
We always worked our way through the farm implements and gravity boxes in the "off season" and cleaned and re-packed the wheel bearings not always as often as we probably should have but better than not at all.

Your experience verifies this is a good idea!



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37 chief

03-13-2007 21:57:43




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 Re: bearings in reply to Richard Shanks , 03-13-2007 21:02:22  
I found a 5 gal pale of grease partly used. My Dad probably bought it years ago. The grease was as hard as a lump of tar. I guess some grease goes bad. Your grease in the wheel baring may have gone bad, and with a little moisture to make the metal rust, turning what was left of your grease a brown color. Stan



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Richard Shanks

03-14-2007 09:53:03




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 Re: bearings in reply to 37 chief, 03-13-2007 21:57:43  
We have a 5 gal pail of grease that has been on our farm for as long as I can remember, maybe 50 years, not much of it left but it still seems to be ok although the oil has settled out some and is a little liquid. One of our neighbors said that he knows grease will turn to dust after a long time. You can't grease hubs anymore because they don't put any zerks in but I hate to start repacking all of these hubs on this farm. Still at approx $30 per hub for new bearings it is still time well spent.

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