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sambear

03-30-2007 08:49:43

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I am purchasing a McCormick-Deering W-30. It will have a split-compartment gas tank: the small tank for gasoline, the large tank for kerosene.

Gasoline was used to start and warm the engine, kerosene was used for the tractor's operation.

If I choose not to use kerosene in the tractor, what options do I have for fuel?

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John M

03-30-2007 18:27:39

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

I dont know why all of these mixes and other things are coming into play, but just run it on regular gas, itll be fine. You dont want to take it to a show or parade and try to run it on kerosene as it wont get the workout it needs to run on kerosene and itll kill all the mosquitos around.

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RusselAZ

03-30-2007 15:59:41

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

My old Regular I used to have ran great when warm on a mix of 10 gal regular gas and 5 gal of Kerosene. It did real work back then.

Just for shows and parades I would bet regular gas would work just fine.

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Walt Davies

03-30-2007 14:37:00

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

You can run it on a 50/50 mix of gas and diesel but I don't really see any reason to i run my Case LA multifuel on gas.
Walt

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Chances R

03-30-2007 11:57:34

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

Sambear. Off your subject but I have to ask is Sambear a real nick name? I have a 5 month old son that was given the nick name CharlieBear by my 3 year old daughter. If Bear is a nick name how have you liked it? Charlie English JR AKA Chances R

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Howard H.

03-30-2007 10:00:46

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

Might take a look in the tank before you worry about it too much!

I bought a D JD with a split tank and looked down in there with a flashlight after I got it home - the old farmer had taken a chisel and cut a hole between the tanks...

I guess he didn't buy into that "dual-fuel" complexity...

Howard

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Jon Hagen

03-30-2007 10:18:56

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to Howard H., 03-30-2007 10:00:46

Sounds like that old farmer ruined his "reserve tank" When growing up, we had several old JD "distilate" tractors that we only ran on gasoline. The trick was to run only on the main tank,with the starting tank kept in reserve for when the main tank ran dry. That 1/2-1 gal ? tank was enough to get you back to the fuel tank if you ran the main tank dry. Saved me many a walking trip and time wasted bringing fuel to the tractor.

Distilate was an oil lighter than #1 fuel or even kerosene I am told. Dilution of the crankcase oil by unburned distilate must have been pretty bad as many/most operator manuals recommended draining part of the crankcase oil and replaceing it with fresh oil every day to keep the dilution from getting too bad. Adjust your intake manifold to the "cold" setting and run it on gasoline for least hassle/problems.

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Gene Davis (GA)

03-30-2007 20:45:49

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to Jon Hagen, 03-30-2007 10:18:56

The start tank capacity on all John Deere letter series tractors was 7/8 U.S.gallon.

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sambear

03-30-2007 09:42:42

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

Would diesel ever stand in as a substitute for kerosene?

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buickanddeere

03-30-2007 11:09:36

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 09:42:42

No,too heavy. It will run on the stuff if the coolant temp is 210F. However the crankcase if filling with unburned diesel and everything is getting sooted/carboned up.

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old

03-30-2007 09:02:44

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

Now days since kero cost more then gas and gas is to high I run gas in all my tractors, the cheapest stuff I can get and they do ok on it. Your tractor is a low compression engine and will work just fine on what is sold today.

Hobby farm

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Gerald J.

01-18-2008 08:23:32

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Re: Starting problems Ford truck in reply to Mark/Wi, 01-18-2008 06:45:17

Centrifugal advance sticking advanced. Slides back as it sits.

Gerald J.

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RustyFarmall

03-30-2007 09:00:50

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

In order for the kerosene to burn the engine needs to be very well warmed up, and unless you plan on working the tractor hard, it will not get warm enough to run very well on the kerosene. Do as Gerald J. said and just put gasoline in both tanks. The tractor will run just fine.

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bva

03-30-2007 08:59:18

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

I would think that you would use gasoline all the time. Do you know the compression ratio?

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sambear

03-30-2007 09:47:33

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to bva, 03-30-2007 08:59:18

Sorry, I do not know the compression ratio. I have read that it is low on a McCormick-Deering W-30 engine, but an exact compression number calculation is beyond me.

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Gerald J.

03-30-2007 08:54:54

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to sambear, 03-30-2007 08:49:43

Put gasoline in both tanks.

Gerald J.

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sambear

04-02-2007 14:11:10

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Re: Fuel for vintage tractors in reply to Gerald J., 03-30-2007 08:54:54

Thanks to everyone who took some time to answer my question. I deeply appreciate the great help.

As for my handle, it comes from a character from my days when I was a puppeteer on a weekly children's television show.

-sambear

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