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O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Sheep)

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Russ(NC)

03-30-2007 09:39:25

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I know this is not a tractor question, but there is a lot of useful knowledge on the site.

I have male and female Great Pyrenees Dogs which are about 1-1/2 years old. They protect my Bore goats (about twenty). We have coyotes which killed about 10 baby goats before I got these dogs. They are very protective of these goats and in fact, think they are goats.

My problem is I also have about 15 sheep, which are now in a separate pasture. I would like to combine the goats and sheep together in one large area (about 25 AC). I tried this about three months ago and the dogs killed one of the sheep. I don"t want to repeat that again.

What is the best way to introduce the dogs to the sheep? Should I put a long rope around the dogs neck and jerk them back if they get into an attack mode when in the sheep pasture? Or what other method/s should I try?

TKS,

Russ

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Gwiz

04-01-2007 07:48:10

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Russ(NC), 03-30-2007 09:39:25

First of all, now that you know you have a problem, put just one dog at a time with the sheep. Maybe you know one is more aggressive than the other. Take the least aggressive.
There is no reason they can't guard both. Either take the dog to the sheep, or bring a sheep to the dog. You need to introduce them and the dogs should be able to understand you don't perceive the sheep as a threat. As someone else has suggested, the sheep will also have to know the dogs are not a threat. Sounds like maybe your dogs are still young. (Large dogs like this act like puppies until they are about 2 years old.) Anything that will run from a dog is fun to chase, and anything one dog is chasing the other is going to chase. Confine them and put them together. Might also want to mix them a few times while you are present and then separate them when you leave for a while. James Martin

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Henry E NC

03-30-2007 15:07:49

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Russ(NC), 03-30-2007 09:39:25

I have a friend who mixes goats and cows and he had trouble with his Gret Peyrenees working with both annimals so he got him some llamas which also kill coyotees by kicking them to death and no more problems in the last 4 years. We have lots of coyotes and they are being squeezed by the ungodly developement. All of FL wants to come to NC and build a house on level groud on top of the mountains. Henceforth, no trees left and just mountains of ugly houses.

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led

03-30-2007 19:33:45

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Henry E NC, 03-30-2007 15:07:49

Begining the 7th week of a pup's developement is critical. G P pup.s are place with sheep for bonding or to make them think the are a sheep. Adult female G P dogs will sometimes nurse orphaned lambs.
led

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FreeRanger

03-30-2007 12:37:06

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Russ(NC), 03-30-2007 09:39:25

I would try introducing a friendly bottle lamb to the dogs, of course with you in the paddock at the same time. Show the dogs that you are not afraid of the lamb and the lamb is not afraid of you either. The older ewes are probably slightly afraid of you and the dogs pick this cue up. I know my german shepherd understood to leave the sheep alone when I was feeding them but jumped in when ever I told the ram to "get back."

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PatMz

03-30-2007 11:29:18

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Russ(NC), 03-30-2007 09:39:25

My wife's cousin has a Pyrenees. Debba is a good protector of their goats. My understanding is that they become part of the herd, so it may be very difficult to add the sheep to the herd, especially if the goats don't accept the newcomers.

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Mike M

03-30-2007 10:14:23

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Russ(NC), 03-30-2007 09:39:25

Just wondering if you are sure beyond doubt that your dogs killed the sheep and not another coyote ? Seems kinda weird they love the goats but not sheep ? but what do I know , dogs will be dogs.

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Russ(NC)

03-30-2007 10:29:41

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Mike M, 03-30-2007 10:14:23

I'm 99% sure my dogs killed the sheep. I saw them over the sheep while it was still alive (barely) and they were attacking it. I removed the sheep to the barn where it died. I have not seen or heard any coyotes in the last year, about the time the dogs were one year old. I have to give it to these dogs, they will clear out anything messing with the goats. THis includes snakes, coyotes, foxes, coons, etc...

Russ

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Mike M

03-30-2007 12:01:08

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Re: O/T Great Pyrenees Dog Training (Intro of Shee in reply to Russ(NC), 03-30-2007 10:29:41

Got me convinced. You may have to start over with some new dogs for on the sheep side or get rid of the sheep ?

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