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recovering sinker logs

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BSer

04-03-2007 17:27:15




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I've been approached about renting some equipment to recover logs sunk years ago here in Florida. Do these guys stand a chance to make a go of it? It's mostlyyellow pine and cypress. Anyone know anything about this?




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rrlund

04-04-2007 11:46:40




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
They do it here in Michigan. The cold water preserves them,so they say. Don't know about Florida.



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Polish Mike

04-04-2007 11:32:13




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
The TV show "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel had an episode about recovering sunk logs last year. Price of the logs is pretty good, depending on type of log & if it's old growth or not...



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john in la

04-03-2007 23:51:42




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
You can make a go of it selling sinker cypress and pine if you can find the logs. The virgin timber brings a premium price because of the tight grain; color; and you can get wider boards than you can get from trees growing now.
A lot of it is cut and sold wet because it can take a year for it to dry out as a log.

I have seen coffee tables made out of a single slab cut from the bottom of a large sinker cypress log.

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Blue3992 (N Illinois)

04-03-2007 22:03:04




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
There was an article in Wired www.wired.com magazine about getting trees from the bottoms of reservoirs. They built this little robot submarine with a chainsaw thing on it. It was called the "sawfish." I'm sure if you google "sawfish" you'll come up with something.



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msb

04-03-2007 20:33:20




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
In peat bogs of northern Indiana, walnut logs buried for hundreds of years will occasionally surface. They are in excellent shape and are extremely valuable.



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jwal10

04-03-2007 19:11:11




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
At Valsetz Oregon, they logged the land in the 1920's, then they built the log pond. When it filled up a lot of the logs didn't float because when they felled the trees the limbs stuck in the mud. When they closed the mill, and before they drained the pond, A friend got the bid on getting the logs off the bottom of the pond. He got large balloons, fastened one to a log, blew it up with an air compressor. Didn't take much to get them started and they popped right to the surface. First of all there was a lot more down there then he thought and it was better wood than he thought it would be.A lot of it was old growth cedar. He made a lot of money off the job .It took him 3 years to do what he thought would would take 1 year....James

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Tim B from MA

04-03-2007 18:56:51




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
Whether the logs rot or not has less to do with water temp than with lack of oxygen.

If they have been laying in the muck or low oxygen water layer, they will be about as good as new.

If they are big, old growth, clear wood, the wood is probably worth quite a bit of cash.



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NE IA Dave

04-03-2007 18:37:26




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
My ex grandfather in law lived in England. He had made dominoes out of what he called bog wood. It was as hard as can be and I don't remember if he stained the wood, but it was black as black can be also. The wood came from reclaimed land from I think trees that were under water for centuries. He died 25 years ago so I do not recal so good, but if I remember correct it was very spendy.



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tired logger

04-03-2007 17:53:46




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
with the business world as it is logging is hard work specialy if you gots to hold your breath very long &its hard to keep your saw sharp and running. saw an ad the other day for a good used log skidder for sale ...cheap... no seat , no steering wheel. great for the logger who is losing hisA$$ and dont know which way to turn.



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DJFarmer

04-03-2007 17:37:18




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
Up here on Lake Superior the is a company that recovers sunken logs. There is good money to be had for the lumber. I also remember watching an episode of "This Old House" years ago on which Norm went with some guys who were recovering old Cypress and Pine logs from rivers in the south. Those logs were also producing some expensive lumber.



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bill mar

04-03-2007 17:34:42




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
big big money in recovering hardwood logs sunk in the great lakes.cold water has kept the trees in pretty good shape.trees were from old growth forests.dont know about logs in southern waters.



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TT KK

04-03-2007 17:33:57




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 Re: recovering sinker logs in reply to BSer, 04-03-2007 17:27:15  
A single log can bring thousands of dollars. The old growth wood is in high demand.

It's a big deal up in the cooler waters of Lake Superior where the logs have laid in the water for a hundred years or more.



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