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Eric Allen

04-13-2007 23:44:22

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My Dad died 2 years ago and my Mom has decided our old tractors must go. They are all I have left of my Dad, we were really close and each tractor has a story to tell either one we wanted to fix up or some old workhorses we used and talked about every day. The animals are long gone and there isn't much for the tractors to do, but they are tangable memories to me and some are projects we started that I could finish. Anyone ever deal with that? I could maybe keep a couple but which ones?... They aren't mine to deal with but I'ld hate to see any go right now. Just wondering if anybody has been through the same thing. Thanks.

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super99

04-15-2007 04:33:20

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

Be sure to let us know how this turns out. When I was preschool age,Dad had a MM or Twin City for big tractor. Had a tool box on back of gas tank and he said he would set me on toolbox and wrap my arms around gearshift lever and I would ride all day, even take a nap sometimes. Don't know the model but every time I go to a show, I look for the old Minnies set up like that. Think it might have been a J. Also had a Ford Jubalee. Set between his legs and he always carried a sack with a few apples in it under the hood. He traded the Minnie for a M Farmall, but really don't have any memories of that, but remember that it was a BIG deal when he bought a disk with WHEELS. I was 9 when he quit farming in 1960. Chris

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37 chief

04-14-2007 20:04:41

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

I know what you are talking about, when you mention the memories. Sorry to hear about your Dad. My Dad died in 92, Miss him alot. My brother and I still have all his tractors. We both feel the same way about the tractors. We will keep them as long as we have the ability. My favorite would be his F 12 farmall. Would it be possible for you buy the tractors, and store them at a friends place? Maybe your mom will just give them to you. Just remember when they are gone, they gone for good. Stan

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Eric Allen

04-14-2007 13:49:47

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

Hey everyone thanks for all the postings what an amazing response. Sorry, I'm 30 going to school and just moved home again to save$$. We have 50 acres in a valley in central NY with 9 tractors in various shape 1930's thru 60's, an IH M and H, a fordson major deisel, and Allis; WF unstyled ,WC , WD, WD-45, D-14, and D-19. Most need soething but almost all of them are so full of memories and plans for fix ups that it's hard to sort out what I can see go. Some I'm really attached to some not so much, but mom has the opposite problem, she can't stand to look at them every day, I on the other hand look at them everytime I come or go and think of them often how to use them and what they need to get going. It's like having a memory that will never fade, one which I can see and smell and touch anytime I want and instantly be transported back to all those hours and conversations. Crappy problem. I'm trying to move forward though, I am at least to the point where I've agreed to let the ones go that I know I can't fix, like the 19(clutch) the WF(throwout bearing) WC(thrown rod) the deisel(set up), but I still hate to see them go even though I havn't even used them much if at all...the wd and the H are the same way, projects me and Dad, got together and worked on together, I've never even driven them but I find it so hard to see them go, if I could just get them going, how cool would that be?! WD was set, and dad rocked it everyday with oil in the cylinders waiting for it to break free. 1 year after he died I did it! Probably only you guys can understand how that felt and why I want to hear it run so bad(only needs a rim and starter rebuild). I do see the other side though, I don't use them, the M and the 14(his favorite) I learned to drive on, on dad's lap, those are really important, maybe I should just concentrate on them(14 is perfect and M just needs a tire), but that 45 for instance is the one I used all summer every summer raking, we haven't had it since I was a kid but it's my buddy, we slaved together for years, but on the other hand it is in perfect shape with great tires and everything, and I just can't find much for it to do just haul some wood or a tree or my nephews truck out of the mud once in a while. It and most of the others would be better off being used but I just can't help wanting to hoard them. Maybe youre right I should get serials and pics and just save the two most important ones...but oh that 45 and the potential of that H and WD you know? Am I being rediculous or do you think a bit more time might make it easier. Sorry for the huge post but it is really nice that you all understand, nobody else in my family does. Thank you for your kind responses, Eric Allen

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

04-16-2007 04:52:08

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-14-2007 13:49:47

Where at in NY?

Bill

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Eric Allen

04-17-2007 10:53:53

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 04-16-2007 04:52:08

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dad's88

04-14-2007 20:12:34

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-14-2007 13:49:47

Your "family" is right here on these boards, and we understand. It doesn't matter what color we are partial to, we are all tractor guys.

I'm afraid that if you sell any chances are they will be hard to recover in the future. Especially those that are in pieces as they may end up as parts. I'm not trying to make this harder for you, just want you to consider all of the possibilities that could arise.

If keeping them all is not an option I would be inclined to offer this suggestion.
Keep the M and D-14 because you sat in dad's lap on them and learned to drive. Those are the ones that are most important you said and the 14 was your dad's favorite. The WD-45 sounds like it's your favorite and it's your buddy, can't hardly let it go. Keep these three for sure. Past that the WD because you picked up where he left off and will carry on with his work. If you can squeeze one more in I think everyone should have an H, but that's just me talking.

Don't worry about putting them to work just get them out and run them around a little every so often and love them. We have over 30 tractors and they don't all get worked every year, but you do need to keep them inside or at least covered up from the weather. If we were closer I'd offer to keep them inside for you if that would help. I think I could fit them in somewhere. Putting up a new shed this summer I hope.

So good luck to you on this endeavor. Ask mom from all of us "pretty please!"

BLANE.

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rrlund

04-14-2007 18:55:19

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-14-2007 13:49:47

The way I look at it,they are paid for and aren't costing a thing to have them sitting there. If you can put them where Mom can't see them,I'm for keeping them until things change for you and you CAN fix them. Join an antique tractor club. That will give you a use for them if you don't use them for anything else. I've been at least 4 years on every restoration I've ever done. As long as I have them here,what does it matter what they look like. You never know what your future will be,but if you want them in it,better talk to Mom. If it takes you a lifetime to restore them,who cares,pass the on to your kids some day. I'd print this all out and show Mom how attached a person can get to these things.

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Jonfarmer

04-14-2007 15:30:54

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-14-2007 13:49:47

Do you think you could let go of the ones you don't like so much?. I'm sure 9 tractors is too many for you, and you'd problably enjoy having fewer more, since then you could concentrate on fixing up just a couple of them and your mother could get some money with the sale of the others, although tractors that are not in running condition and all complete are not worth more than scrap price. A positive way to look at selling them, is you will have room for something else to enter your life, perhaps a new hobby. I understand your mother doesn't like seeing them and if they don't run and you can't fix them or afford to have them fixed, then they are junk to the both of you. My suggestion is to keep your two favorites, the one thats perfect and the M that only needs a tire, and let all the rest go.

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rrlund

04-14-2007 11:01:17

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

I kind of had the oposite problem. I bought a new tractor in the spring just before our oldest son was born. I traded it off after about 21 years and was glad to have something again that wasn't worn out. Well,the wife and kids didn't take that very well at all. When they all came home and saw the new one,they almost teared up,saying that that was the tractor that they had grown up on and the first one we bought after we were married etc. I felt like crap and still do about the whole thing. It sure meant more to them than it did me. I guess if I ever find the darned thing at an auction or a dealers lot,I'd better shell out some money and buy it back for them.

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dad's88

04-14-2007 11:57:43

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to rrlund, 04-14-2007 11:01:17

You hit the nail right on the head Randy. To you it was just a means to get the job done, but to your kids, it was their childhood when everything was right with the world. It meant something to them that was very special, a link to their past.

To your wife it reminded her of the days when you guys were just starting out and all of your hopes and dreams for the future rode on that tractor.

GEE, I hope I didn't make ya feel worse about it. Maybe some summer I can come up and help ya look for it.

BLANE.

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rrlund

04-14-2007 13:35:56

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to dad's88, 04-14-2007 11:57:43

Yea,I'll tell ya Blane,it was a couple of months before I could even look at that dealers ad in the Farm Trader for fear that I'd see it. Now every time I see one on a sale bill,I check the serial number. I just hope I never see that look on either of the boys faces again.

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Paul from MI

04-14-2007 09:02:42

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

I have the 1948 Allis B that Dad bought new. I remember watching the dealer unload it off the truck that fall. I grew up on that tractor and NOTHING can replace those memories. Now my own grandkids are riding around on it, and it"ll always be Great Grandpa"s tractor. Those feeliongs can"t be replaced with any other tractor. Find a way to keep at least one of them. I agree that a smaller one is best if storage is an issue. Besides when you decide to restore it and maybe show it later on, it"ll be a lot easier to haul. around.
Good luck,
Paul

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dad's88

04-14-2007 08:27:08

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

Man, I'm kind of getting washed away here. Big lump in my throat. Every farm kid that grew up on a family tractor can relate to this. My handle says it all, dad's88, in honor of the 1949 Oliver 88 diesel dad bought as a demonstrator with a #4 mounted cornpicker. I still have it and the 1957 Oliver Super 88 diesel that my uncle bought new which dad bought in 1964. The Super 88 is the tractor that I am most attached to because that is the one I rode on so much with dad while he plowed, cultivated, etc. I could not imagine life without them. When you grasp the steering wheel, you are holding what he held for so many thousands of hours. No way you could ever replace that feeling. Those old steering wheels are so worn they should really be replaced and I have two new old stock ones I have set aside for these tractors when I restore them. Still it's just the idea of changing them. Maybe I wont afterall.

The closest I came to losing a family tractor was when my brother sold his Oliver 1750 at a machinery sale in 1980. Watching that tractor go down the rode left an incredible hollow feeling in the pit of my stomach, sort of like when your girlfriend broke up with you. Fortunately we got it back in 1982 through the implement business my brother ran at the time. It's not leaving again as long as I've got anything to say about it!

My dad passed away in 2003 and I know he would have liked to have had back the 1935 Oliver Hart-Parr 18-28 that his dad bought new. That was the tractor that was around when he was a young man. Dad traded it in 1952 for the 88 diesel.

I wish there was some way you didn't have to go through this. Plaese show your mom all of these responses and have her listen to the song "DRIVE" by Alan Jackson. Maybe it will help her understand the connection you have with these tractors. I really hope things work out for you.

BLANE.

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Loren in Florida

04-14-2007 07:37:33

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

In a similar, but different situation. I understand the sentimental value. I bought the 1956 JD 60 that my grandfather bought new. My son bought the 1950 JD A that my dad bought new. Problem is, both tractors are in Minnesota, and we both live in Florida, with nowhere to store or keep them. Fortunately, both are being store with relatives in MN. We don't want to sell them, because of the sentimental value, but we don't know what to do with them either. What do we do?

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dad's88

04-14-2007 08:35:11

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Loren in Florida, 04-14-2007 07:37:33

Don't ever let them go. You've come to far to lose them now. The sadness wont ever leave if you part with them. Somehow it will work out.

Blane.

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georgeky

04-14-2007 07:15:05

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

I have my late grandpas 1950 farmall Cub, which was his most prized possession, This is the first tractor he ever had, it replaced the team of horses. He told me when I would mention it being so small, and he would say George it beat the he** out of looking up a horses a**. This is the first tractor that I ever drove when I was 5 or 6 years old. It does mean the world to me as it reminds me of him every time I walk out to the barn and see it or drive it. Not only does it keep him in my mind it also reminds me of my chidhood. I also have my great granpas horse drawn equipment. I remember riding in that wagon pulled by Jack & Jim as one of my best memories as a child. He would stop along the road at every house were kids lived and pass out hard rock candy from a little bucket he kept under the seat of that old wagon. These are things that can't be replaced. Once they are gone it is hard to track them back down. My mother has never understood what some of these things mean to us boy's. She will say why do you keep all that old junk, and I say it is my link to the past. I will never part with any of it. I agree with a previous post, maybe if your mother read these replies she would have a better understanding of the how important these things are to some of us. I am sorry for the loss of your dad. To me it would be like loosing my granpas all over again to watch that old tracor or wagon go out the driveway for the last time. I hope things work out for you and you can keep some of these things. Good Luck.

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THEkyroastnear

04-14-2007 07:06:44

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

managed to keep both my grandads and my dads although sometime i think why idid it or maybe i should let them go too hard decision for anyone

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Mike in MI

04-14-2007 05:52:05

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

Eric,
I"ve gone thru the samething a few years back. I farmed dads ground after he died but a year later I had a change of health myself.(Had open heart surgery) I sold all his machinery plus all of mine also. But one day my mom came up to me and hands me this piece of paper and she say"s here this is yours to do what ever you want with it.
I still have one of his tractor and still have a couple of my own. I don"t really need the tractors as mom rents out the farm ground now. I still use dad tractor a lot, it"s handy to have around. I use it mostly for the 3 point. I have a boom to help lift things for me. It is hard to see these things go and like you said I still has memories of the things your dad had that you"ll never forget. Perhaps one day I"ll sell some of the tractors because I hate to see them set around and not being used. If I was to keep one it would probably be my dads 530 Case.
It"s not a easy thing to go thru & I know what your going thru! Good luck and take care. Mike

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nhboyd

04-14-2007 05:29:38

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

When I Granfather passed away My dad gave me his dads tractor. I use it off and on around my place. JD 40 with a JD 36 loader.

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LA in Wi.

04-14-2007 05:15:00

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

When my dad had his sale and quit farming I watched the ol' H Farmall go out the driveway and that hurt. Twenty three yrs later I found it, a total mess, but bought it and now it's a beauty and she and I enjoy evening rides and some plowing. What a treat! Maybe you should think about trying to keep/buy one of the smaller tractors of your dad's; maybe it will be easier to store, less expense of fixing up some day, and easier to haul to shows some day. After you get some more responses, show them all to your mother...after she finds how strong the emotions are for us and our tractors she might be able to think of a way to help you.

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super99

04-14-2007 02:45:11

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

Tough row to hoe!! Sorry about your Dad. You don't say how old you are, do you still live at home? In school? Have a job? I think your Mother doesn't realize the connection between you and tractors and your dad, try to find something that ment a lot to your Mom and Dad and ask her how she would like to get rid of that item, might help her understand. Might be a financial decision, she needs the extra $$$. Do you have a trusted uncle or a close friend of you Dad's that could possibly buy one or two of them and save them for you till you can pay him for them? If you have been on this page very long, you see several posts looking for Dad or Grandad's tractor, it is an important link to you past and helps you connect with memories of you Dad. Where are you located and what kind of tractors? Fairly new and worth a fair amount of $$ or old ones that need fixed up? If you can only keep 1, pick the 1 that ment the most to you and your Dad and take lots of pictures and write down serial numbers, make and model on the rest so you will have them and also name and phone # of buyer so you might be able to find them someday. Lots of good hearted people out there, maybe someone will help you find a way to keep track of them. Good luck, Chris

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Dannie

04-14-2007 00:14:12

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Re: Dad's tractors in reply to Eric Allen, 04-13-2007 23:44:22

Been there,does not make it any easily for you.

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