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4H guy

04-24-2007 07:25:17




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Have a 2N with rusted out rims and have tire that is rusted to the rim. We have 1 tire that we can not break the bead from the rim, it is rusted to the tire. Any ideas on how to pop the bead?




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jokers

04-24-2007 18:36:16




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
I`ve got one of those slide hammer type bead breakers, haven`t met a bead it wouldn`t break yet. You ought to see if you can find someone local with one.



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dds-inc

04-24-2007 17:35:25




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
If you have rusted out rims, why don't you just cut the center out of the rim and leave the tire on so you can buy a new tire and rim to weld on to your old center?



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iowa_tire_guy

04-24-2007 17:00:20




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
Haul it into the tire shop and pay them to break the bead with the hydraulic bead breaker. You could get reckless and spend a little more and have them take it off the rim with the right spoons. I would charge you $20 to break the bead and take it off. What's your time worth?



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coflyboy

04-24-2007 14:51:16




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
Had the same problem with the rear tires on my 641. My tires were good. I bought two new rims, painted them, and called in the pros. By the time they got there the paint was dry. They sucked out the cloride, got those rusted rims off, and the new ones on without even breaking a sweat.

Based on what they charged me, I wouldn't EVEN think about doing it myself. They even hauled off the old rims.

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Aaron Ford

04-24-2007 10:57:41




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
I used the front edge of a Bobcat bucket, if ya happen to have one of those. You could attempt to destroy the wheel with a sledehammer.

Junkyards have a nifty toy to separate tire and rim, but I believe both are garbage after the process. It is a huge hydraulic ram with a wedge head that crushes the wheel, then the tire bounces right off on its own. Cool to watch, kinda like a car crusher.

Aaron

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NE IA Dave

04-24-2007 10:06:24




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
Lay it on it's side and dump some gas around the rim. No, it will not hurt the tire, let it soak and soften up the rubber.



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Leland

04-24-2007 09:02:33




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
lay it on the ground under something heavy and put the foot of a hi lift jack on bead and let the weight work for you this usually breaks most loose lots of soap and water works helps to just takes time



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John N Mi

04-24-2007 08:39:44




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
I had the same problem with a tire for my M/M 335. I used a sawsall to cut the tire ( blown out tire) around by the bead and with the bulk of the tire out of the way was able to force a wide chisel between the bead and rim. You do not say if your tires are still good or will be replaced.
John



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GA JACK

04-24-2007 08:31:08




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
4 GUY,
Lay a 4x4 on the side of the tire, like a ramp, BUT not on the rim. Drive your truck up on the 4x4. The weight will break it loose. May have to do it in a few places to fully unseat the tire.
Has worked for me many times and not just on tractor tires. Good Luck jackie



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David Snipes

04-24-2007 07:40:45




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 07:25:17  
If you can get a duck billed tire hammer (similar to a sledge hammer but one end has a wide slightly curved end) it should break the bead free. Lubricate the sidewall well with rubber lube or soapy water. Strike the tire hard an inch or two from the bead with a slight angle of the duck bill toward the rim. It slides down onto the rim while forcing the tire bead off slightly. You might have to work your way around a tough bead, all the while slowly creeping the bead off of the rim. I have found that straddling the center of the wheel by standing with each foot on opposites sides of the rim gives me the correct angle for striking with the hammer. Wear gloves & eye & ear protection. I haven't met a tire yet that I can't get off that way. There are other methods that I haven't used that others will post.

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4h guy

04-24-2007 07:55:21




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to David Snipes, 04-24-2007 07:40:45  
We were able to break one bead, but the other side is rusted on. The other tire was tough but we got it off.



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4010guy

04-24-2007 08:42:51




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4h guy, 04-24-2007 07:55:21  
I had some OLD OLD OLD truck tires one time that i just couldn't get broke loose from my rims and finally took a big ol ugly knife and cut around the bead about 3 or 4 inches from the rim and then i cut the beads with a angle grinder to get them buggers off.....Dont know if i did right or not but i did get them off.Now if your trying to SAVE your tires and tubes please disregard my free advise. ;o)

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4H guy

04-24-2007 08:49:01




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4010guy, 04-24-2007 08:42:51  
Tires are good, rims are junk. Want to save the tires.



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4010guy

04-24-2007 08:55:28




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 Re: Tire removal in reply to 4H guy, 04-24-2007 08:49:01  
I just looked back and you did say rusted out rimes dident you.sorry bout that.



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