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Engine Renew in a bottle ???

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Sam F.

05-11-2007 14:03:33




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Any one ever try that engine renew or engine restore in a bottle. Does or will it help a tractor that has been sitting for 2-3 years ??? Also, is the radiator treatment that softens seals and lubricates the water pump any good ?? OR--- are both like throwing 10 bucks down the filler pipes ??? Thanks




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newtothisgame

05-11-2007 19:39:36




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:03:33  
i used a can of that in my 89 gmc and noticed a difference almost right away i tried it in my tractor didnt notice much of a change but my uncle swears by it thats all the closer to an engin rebuild any of his old tractors get



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RMinVA

05-11-2007 18:26:11




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:03:33  
My Dad had a 1980 chevy pickup with a 305 that he used to knock around on the farm. Had mice to get in the air filter and cut a big hole at the rear of the filter. Dad always went by if it ain't broke don't fix it. So I have no idea how many years that hole was in the filter before it was found. The truck lost power and he parked it. Then after a year he told me to junk the truck or do what ever I wanted with it.

I got the thing running(new air filter) but had little power. On level ground it would run about 30 mph and pull down on hills. Sucking gas like no tomorrow and oil too. I was at Walmart and picked up a can of engine restore (the size for a v-8 engine.) Next day poured it in. It was already a quart low so the restore filled it. Cranked it up and took a cell phone with me in case the truck wouldn't make it back.LOL

The longer I drove it the faster it would go. After about 20 miles it would run 60 mph. By the time I go home it would run 75.

Anyway that was 6 years ago. I gave the old truck to my son. He puts a can of restore in it at every oil change. He put bosch plugs in and new wires and the old truck will smoke the tires now. It still uses some oil and loves gas but it was never great on gas to begin with. It has 85 on the speedometer and it will bounce the needle when it gets there. The Restore brought the compression back up to bring it back to life.

I've never tried Restore on a good engine but if I ever have another engine go down I'll sure try it again. It worked on that old Chevy.

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bean in sc

05-11-2007 16:21:48




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:03:33  
I looked up the MSDS on one those flush products one time.. it was mostly stoddard solvent. in other words,high quality mineral spirits or paint thinner ..which by the way also seems to be the main ingredient in wd-40 , along with some 'light' oil.

Ever since, I've just used a pint of mineral spirits, or kerosene , when I wanted to flush an engine. I do keep some wd-40, or similar product, around, just because the spray can is handy .....

If the engine is very badly gunked up, disassembly is the only way to get it clean. If the rings are just 'mildly' stuck, pouring some some solvent in the plug holes and letting it soak several days will sometimes unstick them. Kroton oil is the best I've ever used for this, but can't seem to get it anymore. Heard it had a carcinogen in it. Marvel mystery oil seems to have the right combination of oil and solvent to cling to parts long enough to do some good. I'm sure there are other brands out there as good. None will fix a serious mechanical problem.
The oil additives that 'stop smoke' seem primarily to boost the viscosity.....running heavier weight oil will accomplish the same thing. I once put 70wt aircraft oil in a 6 cy ford engine with bad rings to see what would happen....it quit smoking , noticably at least, and the oil pressure went up some .....but it obviously isn't a fix.

My experience with 'seal softener's is that they are a waste of money. If seals are that old and dried up, they probably are covered in a nice layer of gunk that will prevent anything you add to the crancase from having much effect on them.

well, I've ranted enough on this topic ...:)

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landlord7012

05-11-2007 15:40:29




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:03:33  
I restored the failing oil pressure in my truck by doing a 5 minute flush (gunk). Looks like red diesel fuel (probably is but more $$). Supposedly cleans the pick up screen and tube and oil passages.Went from 35 psi at 65 mph to 65 psi. I'm going to try that tranny fluid trick too.

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LenND

05-11-2007 14:49:38




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:03:33  
I've heard the water treatment workssometimes. Whwn you change oil in your vehicle save a little of the oil and put it in your gas tank, It will work just as good as any restore type product, Their is no way to seal up bad cylinders with an additive. The temp gets too hot for any to stick to sidewalls and stay.BTDT



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dds-inc

05-11-2007 14:07:29




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:03:33  
I'll tell you what it's good for... Screwing people out of their money when they buy a TRACTOR with any of that stuff in it. Sort of like spray-bombing a tractor and calling it restored.

I've bought a farmall 404 that had stuff in it, didn't smoke, when I got it home and changed the oil, boy you should've seen that thing smoke!

I suppose IT WORKS, but I will tell you this, BE HONEST about what you put in it to make it stop leaking or smoking.

My thoughts.

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Sam F.

05-11-2007 14:13:29




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to dds-inc, 05-11-2007 14:07:29  
Tractor does not smoke or leak. I thought maybe that stuff would help the valves and rings and get some of my compression back ??? Water pump was squeaking a little so that was what the pump lube was about. I don't try to screw anyone if I can help it.



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old

05-11-2007 14:59:43




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to Sam F., 05-11-2007 14:13:29  
If you want to help the valves and rings a little just put about a 1/2 cup of tranny fluid in about 5 gals of gas. What that will do it work as an upper lube and it will not hurt any thing either. Now they do make a water pump lube stuff that works but if your water pump is makeing noise it will not help since its telling you its getting ready to go out on you. The other stuff is a waste of good $$

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BarryfromIA

05-11-2007 20:03:43




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 Re: Engine Renew in a bottle ??? in reply to old, 05-11-2007 14:59:43  
Getting of the main topic here, I used a can of k-mart power steering stop leak in my CASE 210 power steering and it has not leaked since. It was empty when I filled it 5 years ago.



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