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sambear

05-16-2007 12:55:21




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On my Mom's farm is a 1938 McCormick-Deering tractor. It came with pneumatic tyres.

In 1972 it was driven into the woods, and for most of these intervening years the exhaust, radiator, and gas tanks were left uncovered.

When it was pulled out last fall (2006) the tractor rolled and steered freely, but the engine would not budge. The gas tanks are cracked, as is the exhaust manifold and magneto housing; the tyres (tires) are shot as well.

Given that it was my Grandfather's first tractor, what would you choose to do with it?

Don

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JDknut

05-17-2007 04:01:44




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
Keep it and fix it up, seeing as how it is practically a member of the family. Pour some oil in the spark plug holes and get started loosening it up even if you aren't going to fix it up right away. Good luck and have fun with it.



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too many interests

05-16-2007 20:46:06




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
I would restore it. After sitting for 15+ years in pieces I put my grandads first tractor, a farmall super c, back together. My grandad is still around and the day it started up the look on his face was priceless when he took it for his trip around the yard. We now use it for plowing a little and raking in the summer.



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37 chief

05-16-2007 20:43:23




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
If you don't keep the tractor, in a few years you will be on here saying I wish I had kept my Grandfather's tractor. I would jump at the chance to have my Grandfather's tractor if he had one. He only had horses. Keep it. Stan



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TimWafer

05-16-2007 17:28:12




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
Check out my story from a few years ago on a similar sounding project! It will give you a clue as to what your looking at.



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R Aiken

05-16-2007 17:09:49




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
Dave Look in Stuck & Troubled, I got this out of the woods last Saturday.



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NE IA Dave

05-16-2007 16:49:12




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
There is little question in my mind. I would say if you can't afford to fix it now at least get a blue tarp on her and start soaking it down so you do not loose any more to the rust factor. Then give yourself a little time to consider it, or perhaps another family member, or even your son some day. Otherwise once it is gone no one can restore it.



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thack

05-16-2007 16:42:21




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
What says you have to restore it? If it was me I"d just get it running again and have fun puttin" around on it.



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old

05-16-2007 15:46:10




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
Well since it was your grand fathers there is only one answer. Fix it up. I have my grand fathers tractor its a JD-B took me a good number of years to get the money to fix it but I did. When I found out it was locked up I filled the cylinders with tranny fluid and kept them full to make sure it would pop free when I could get to it. I now use it every summer to rake hay with. Tractors like that are priceless

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Walt Davies

05-16-2007 15:40:38




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
I was born 1938 and I would hope that if someone found me out on a fence row that they would stop by an say you know he looks like saving.
Hey But I'm an old sentimental guy who would not throw anything away.
Walt



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Red Dave

05-16-2007 14:58:57




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
On the plus side, since it is a McCormick-Deering, there are probably a lot of parts available for you to fix it up.

On the minus side, it is going to take a lot of time, effort and at least some money to get it in shape. It would help if you have tools, some mechanical ability (but you don't need to be a professional either) and a place to work on it.

When you get done it will not be worth anywhere near as much as you will have to put into it.

All that said, I would restore my grandfather's tractor, if I could find it. No matter how bad it's condition is. And be happy doing it.

But, That's just me.

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Rick Kr

05-16-2007 14:52:48




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
RESTORE!!!

I was lucky enough to get my Great Grandfathers 1946 AC WC. Sat since 1959, my dad got it fired up in 1981. Sat again, dad and I both got it going in 1993. Been running ever since.

It is ok to fair condition, definitely used. He did 80acres with it. Also got cultivator, cultipacker, disc, and plow. Left the horsedrawn hayrake, and front mount cultivator.
Left other old horsedrawn equip that he used before 1946.

Why did I tell you all this. Well, I spent 2 years on and off "restoring" all these rusted attachments. Freeing everything up, grease etc. Tractor is still original.

I could go buy a WC in better shape probably well under $1000. But everytime I run it, or even hook the implements to one of my newer tractors its hard to describe. Not real fast or big, but fun to use.

So if you like it and it reminds your of your grandpa do it. But don't think you will ever sell it for more than the market price because it was your grandpas. But its hard to put a price on memories.

I have been thinking about restoring mine, but I always remember the tractor kind of faded and a little rusty and my grand grandpa in a thick Czech accent telling me how great of a tractor that was instead of his two horses. So I might just leave it exactly the way it is right now. Original and well used.

Hopefully my WC is the last tractor I have. I'll give it to my kids.

Rick

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Ludwig

05-16-2007 14:22:01




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
I'm in much the same case but worse. I've got my Great Grandfather's 1928 Farmall Regular. I pulled it out of the shop in '99 where it had been parked since 1958 or so...
Its been sitting at my parent's house now since '02. I've gotten the head off and started cleaning it up. Either this summer or next I'll pull the motor and really get down to freeing it up but I'm not really in a hurry...

Its up to you but I'm gonna do mine. I already bought new wheels. The tires were totally shot and the wheels had rotted too.

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Scotmac

05-16-2007 14:15:42




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
If you're not up to the task, give it to someone or donate it to an organization that would like to restore and show it. At least you would always be able to look at it.



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jubilee johnny

05-16-2007 13:49:29




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
People are either nostalgic or they're not. Family heirlooms mean a lot to me. I have both of my grandmother's "hoosier" hutches, one of which had set in a basement and become a stack of wood which most people would have heaved out. Now people come to my house and drool. But I also have restored grandad's jd70 gas and a 1935 chev grain truck he bought new. If you wish to restore the family heirloom be prepared to spend more than if you found one like it and just bought it. But, the tlc I put into the family thing gives me lost of joy. Good luck.

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neblinc

05-16-2007 13:31:04




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
Depends on if you have the time & resources to restore it or not. You are under no deadline, do you have a place to work on it? If no to these questions then try and and find a way someone can use the parts instead of taking it to the scrap man.

Randy



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Mike (WA)

05-16-2007 13:05:23




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to sambear, 05-16-2007 12:55:21  
There are many who will say, "Restore it, its part of your heritage, yada, yada. . ." But if it were me, given that restoring such a beast is going to be a BIG job, it would depend on whether the tractor actually meant much to me (ie, riding with gramps as a youth, using it, etc.), or it was just an old tractor in the woods that I never had much (or anything) to do with. Guess I'm just not very sentimental (I can't get very worked up about geneology, either)

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mark

05-16-2007 14:23:15




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to Mike (WA), 05-16-2007 13:05:23  
I'd bet money if you could ask grandpa whether it was worth it or not, he'd probably say "H*ll NO, it was worn out back then...why do you think I yanked it out of the way 35 years ago!" If it meant anything to him or the family back then, it would have never gone to the woods to rot. But, you may view it as recovered Lost Treasure. If so, expect to spend lots of time and more money than it's worth to do so.

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TxAllisMan

05-16-2007 15:45:26




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to mark, 05-16-2007 14:23:15  
Restore it or put it back for someone else in your family to restore since its part of your family.



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Dan Hill

05-17-2007 04:40:40




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to TxAllisMan, 05-16-2007 15:45:26  
I still have my dads Edison phonograph and music box,my mothers kerosene lamp, my uncle Buds axe and my Uncle Rolands Ithaca double 12 gauge shotgun.No one has enough money to buy these from me.I have tools that were given to me by friends over 50 years ago and some that were given to me after they had passed on.I have my Dads tool box on a work bench.Just some old wrenches and odds and ends.They connect me to past days and fond memories.I would fix up the old tractor.My dad worked with me and the old JD H picking up stone ,clearing brush, hauling fire wood.

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Larry D.

05-16-2007 17:21:17




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 Re: To restore or salvage in reply to TxAllisMan, 05-16-2007 15:45:26  
Right -On Guys I give it TWO THUMBS up as well!!!...GIT' Er Runnin'Larry KF4LKU



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