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Price of gas diesel in England

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David in Wales

05-24-2007 03:20:21

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Hi Gang;
Prices have been creeping up here too.
Gasoline = $7.27 US Gallon
Diesel = $7.35 US Gallon
Prices vary slightly a few cents in different areas.
Farmers get red colour (rebated) diesel for farm use only a bit cheaper, will find out price.
Worst price is cigarettes = $10.60 pack of 20

Dont you just "love" government taxation !!!

David

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buickanddeere

05-25-2007 10:17:14

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

Just out of curiosity, what price range does British beer cover? Draft, premium, bottled, cans etc?

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05-24-2007 09:03:31

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

Aren't tax discussions fun? Wisconsin gas tax 44+ cents a gallon stat and federal road use excise tax, no sales tax added. Note that Michigan poster said they had 6% sales tax added so gov gets more $ the higher retail price. Ran into that in Indiana 70s, court ruled sales tax could be applied to retail price including per gallon excise tax. Canadian poster noted 17.5% VAT added to fuel - money goes to provincal general revenue, then some road taxes added. England had about 1/2 the fuel tax going to other than road repair, transport? Was comment that old age pension and national health plan got a fair chunk of that so British government couldn't give tax break on fuel because people would be starving, dieing- bit dramatic talk by politician there, could have transfered politicians salary to make up difference (don't wait for that from Labor). Amish some times comment about fuel cost, kerosene for lamps goes up, horse feed a bit higher but the horse can trim the ditches, government services are not needed for many supposedly vital things- provide it yourself and tell gov they are not needed so don't come asking for more tax money. If that attitude spreads to others the gov workers would not have job security. Might be a good thing. RN

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IH2444

05-24-2007 05:17:26

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

the most confusing thing is I saw yesterday where sales of "gas guzzlers was up in the USA". go figure....

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JDknut

05-24-2007 04:01:53

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

I hear they tax the livin' crap and pee out of gas over there, this adds a few dollars to the price. Will come to that here, I'm afeard. But the diff is that over there youse guys have alternatives to gas, decent public transportation and shorter distances, whereas over here in the wide open spaces, we are chained to the car and thus get royally screwed. Oil and car companies fought public transportation for so long, that it will be a very long time until we get a decent transport infrastructure built up over here so we have a viable alternative to personal cars.

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JDknut

05-24-2007 09:13:14

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to hayray, 05-24-2007 06:03:19

As high as the state taxes are in the US, they are a lot higher in Europe. The diff there is that they have alternatives over there and we dont so we are chained to our cars and have to bend over and get our butts kicked every time OPEC sneezes or there is some cloudiness in the Gulf or some oil company CEO wants a new summer mansion. At least in Europe the government gets it and I'd rather have the government get it than some rich CEO or oil country dictator that hates our guts anyway. At least then we have a shot at getting some of it back, even if it is only in the form of a few fixed potholes.

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hayray

05-25-2007 04:37:47

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to JDknut, 05-24-2007 09:13:14

You have gotta to be kidding me? You would rather have the goverment get the money then some rich oil CEO?. The reason gas over here is not $7 + per gallon is because the free market drives it and people make profit at it. You need a lesson in economics and the goverment don't deserve anymore than they are getting now.

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Ludwig

05-24-2007 07:19:46

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to hayray, 05-24-2007 06:03:19

How much do you complain about potholes? Or if the side of the road isn't mowed?

This is how that gets paid for.

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hayray

05-25-2007 04:43:12

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to Ludwig, 05-24-2007 07:19:46

there is no way I get what I pay for on road taxes, our roads are outrageously bad condition.

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Spook

05-24-2007 06:41:18

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to hayray, 05-24-2007 06:03:19

The local station may only get .02 per gallon, but the oil company gets a lot more than that. And that station might be pumping a couple hundred thousand gallons per week. That would add up too. I will reserve political stuff for the ot board.

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IH2444

05-24-2007 06:19:44

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to hayray, 05-24-2007 06:03:19

The oil companies make a higher rate of return by far than do most retail establishments, including Wal Mart.

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Joe in MN

05-24-2007 03:47:47

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

Thank you David in Wales.... I'm thinking we should think about going back to the Horse and Buggy days,, and if we need to smoke -- just raise our own tabacco,,, --- no more Middle Class Folks, just the Very Rich --- or the Very Poor is Comming.... Joe in MN.

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MN Scott

05-24-2007 06:24:23

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to Joe in MN, 05-24-2007 03:47:47

The state would come in and tax your tabacco if they found out you were growing it. The goverment can never do with less you know but the working man must. Many states are now targeting poeple who are making their own biofuel from cooking oil. Seems the goverment is not getting the tax revenue from the fuel. When are the poeple in this country going to wake up and see the real enemy is ever growing goverment and not private companies.

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Ludwig

05-24-2007 11:10:00

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to MN Scott, 05-24-2007 06:24:23

I burn veggie oil in my diesel car now and again and my accountant adds it on to my tax return.
Fuel tax is ROAD tax. I still use the road, I should pay for it, thats only right.

Now I'm in the growing minority that says a portion of my road tax should be paying for better infrastructure for public transportation. Our rail system is falling apart while we plow money into airports to prop up failing airlines and more roads that we can't afford to drive on. Thats just silly.

I take the Acella express to NYC from Boston about every other month. Its fantastic and would be even better if Connecticut would pay its share and upgrade the tracks. In MA, RI and NY the train goes 100+mph (verified with my gps) in CT it goes 65mph...

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Joe in MN

05-24-2007 06:40:46

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to MN Scott, 05-24-2007 06:24:23

Yup --- Our Government is Now a Communists Government --- in the Past --- when the Country was at War --- we were on Rationing because the War was paid as we go --- Now --- the War Costs are all Loans ... so we will Pay it later for a Very long Time to come ..... with higher costs..

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MN Scott

05-24-2007 09:03:16

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to Joe in MN, 05-24-2007 06:40:46

Rather fight the war now overseas and pay later than to try to clean up from a nuclear or chemical attack that WILL come from terrorists if they are not kept busy and killed overseas! Remember 911! it was only intended as a test first strike and it worked they found out that the left is totally gutless and will not fight back! In fact the left fight for the terrorists right to kill us.

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Ludwig

05-24-2007 11:11:13

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to Tim B from MA, 05-24-2007 09:27:21

Well said sir.

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cannonball

05-24-2007 03:43:53

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

David don't mislead everyone, how much tax is on a gallon there...

MAY GOD BLESS THE USA

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TGIN

05-24-2007 03:37:27

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Re: Price of gas diesel in England in reply to David in Wales, 05-24-2007 03:20:21

That`s outragus !!! I`m about to throw my hands up and just go get a BOTTLE but I cant aford one , got gas yesterday !

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