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Dave from MN

05-29-2007 06:04:18




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Maple trees are dropping seeds, I want to plant as many as possible for transplanting in the next few years. Any advice on how to successfully go about it? Any help would be a blessing




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supergrumpy

05-30-2007 11:57:43




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
your deer will love you



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bradley martin

05-30-2007 02:02:15




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Oft (silver) maples drop their seed in the spring and require no stratification. Sugar( and other hard maples drop their seeds in the fall and will respond to stratification



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kyle in NY

05-29-2007 18:31:20




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Come to my place. They grow like weeds. I know how to transplant propperly, but with the maples, I have ripped them out by the stem on trees about a foot tall and simply replanted with great success. Now if it was a japanese maple, my procedure would surely differ greatly :)



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midwest redneck

05-29-2007 12:33:52




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
At my old house (13 years ago) I took a seed from a maple tree and put it 3 inches down in the dirt in a flower bed and in 3 years it was over a foot tall. I put plenty of miracle grow on it and put a small fence around it to protect it from animals. I just wanted to see if I could plant a seed and make it grow. If I had the land (like 40 acres) I would plant a *hit load of trees from saplings and wait for them to grow. Wooded land isnt cheap and to make your own would be nice.

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Rich Va

05-29-2007 09:35:45




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 Here's what I would do in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Gather your seeds,put them in zip lock bags or tupperware containers and then place in your freezer for a few weeks or a month. Seeds will germinate better after freezing. Then get you some 6 or 8 inch pots fill with potting soil and plant your seeds,keep in a fairly controlled enviromment with sunshine and warm temp,greenhouse is good, but room with windows is ok too,keep the soil in the pots moist and add some nutrient all along. These plants will develop good roots and you can plant in the spring after all the freezing stuff is gone. You will have to keep them watered the first year and they will naturally adapt to the coming winter. Not really sure if this is the right way for your area,but that's the way I would do it.

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spitz

05-29-2007 09:15:39




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Only late summer and fall seed typically need stratification to simulate winter. The seeds dropping now need to be planted as soon as possible. They need no stratification. they are dropped now to get a head start and harden off before winter. Stratification is done so the seeds start early in the spring and have time to harden off before winter. If they started in the fall they would die because they are not ready for winter. Anyway long story short- stratify late maturing seed, plant early maturing seed. Most seeds only need 30 days stratification in the fridge but some like walnuts need 120 days.

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Dave from MN

05-29-2007 08:14:21




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Thanks for the replies so far, the trees are Sugar and silver maples. We will be seeding our prperty lines with them and also some other trees. Also are thinking long term for when we get rezoned that we will have higher value lots with them tree rows and small wooded areas. less than 1 acre, gonna make for some smaller feilds for who knows how long,but I think the place will be alot more appealing. Plus we could really use the wind break for erosion control in the spring.

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Wardner

05-29-2007 07:38:40




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
What you are seeing is the spring drop. Those seeds (I think they are called samaras) are infertile. Apples do the same thing. Mature seeds and apples drop with the leaves in the fall.

You are better off to dig up seedings or trees. I have transplanted wild Sugar Maples with a six inch bole (diameter of trunk).



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Nutsaboutcombines

05-29-2007 07:55:43




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Wardner, 05-29-2007 07:38:40  
No, Wardner, any maple seeds seeds dropped in late spring/early summer ARE the only seeds the tree will produce for the year, period. I do agree about stratifying the seeds of certain tree species, but silver maples sure do not require such. Right now, in my yard, I'm beginning to see the results of a seed drop from maybe 2 months ago.

As with any tree seedlings, the vast majority just get mowed along with the grass/weeds, so as to prevent lawns and yards from becoming woods.

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Coloken

05-29-2007 07:50:19




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Wardner, 05-29-2007 07:38:40  
The ones that drop off my maple in the spring have no problems growing in a week or two.



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daniel in sc

05-29-2007 07:27:35




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
whoa a second. dont know if this applies to maples but most all tree seeds require stratification. thi means they must lay on ground during winter and get thoroughly "chilled" before they will sprout. all those seedlings may be from older seed sprouting.

again, i may be wrong dont know much about maples. but if you do "stratify" what to do would be to collect seeds, let them dry out a little, and put them in the fridge for a month or so. then plant them. once again i dont know about maples, but this works for black walnuts, (which by the way brings top price from cabinetmakers)hope this helps.

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Coloken

05-29-2007 07:55:02




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to daniel in sc, 05-29-2007 07:27:35  
Like I told above..my seeds have no problem sproting a week or two after falling. Thats if the squirls don't eat them. Elm seeds are growing all over my garden--worse than weeds.



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jdemaris

05-29-2007 06:26:38




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Why not just let them grow on their own and dig up later? I've got thousands of them all over - and cut most with a brush-hog.

One thing to keep in mind. Don't know what kind of maple you have. Red (soft) maples and swamp maples grow just about anywhere like weeds. Black or hard maples are little more touchy - and don't tolerate acid soil very well.



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Nutsaboutcombines

05-29-2007 06:26:26




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
Dave, I never post over here, nor even really read the stuff over here, either, but since this maple seed topic was up, it caught my attention.

I don't know what species of maple [Acer] you have, but in my experience, the seeds were quite easy [really too easy] to get to germinate. We have silvers here, which are not only prolific seedwise, but rather fast-growing and relatively short-lived.

Collect as many seeds as you want, and get any seed starter tray from a garden store or nursery, then just plant those seeds. I believe they take about 2 weeks to germinate. Very soon, those seedlings will need to be transferred to larger containers. I prefer the standard 16 oz plastic cups with 3-4 small 1/4" holes drilled in their bottoms for drainage. Fill with any standrd potting mix, or even use some of your own dirt, mixed 50/50 with seed start mix. Seed start mixes don't actually contain soil.

Always start more than you really intend to actually plant as trees. Many just die off or don't grow right. That's just nature's way. As your seedlings grow larger, just keep moving to larger pots. Most any landscaper will have an abundance of used 1 gallon and larger plastic tubs [free] to keep your developing trees in.

As they grow in the pots, you can clip off lower twigs and suckers and pretty much shape the trunk the way you want, so as to eliminate any low-hanging limbs later on.

Good luck with this. Hope you get a small forest of new maple saplings.

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Coloken

05-29-2007 06:17:50




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Dave from MN, 05-29-2007 06:04:18  
I just put several seeds in the largest pots I had and kept them watered. Thin to one. Good for first year.



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Brian G. NY

05-29-2007 19:02:16




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Coloken, 05-29-2007 06:17:50  
I noticed that I have a lot more than usual of sugar maple seedlings (a stem with 2 leaves) growing on my lawn this year. Can I carefully dig up these tiny seedlings and replant where I really want them?



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Nutsaboutcombines

05-30-2007 06:21:02




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 Re: Off Topic- planting maple seeds in reply to Brian G. NY, 05-29-2007 19:02:16  
Yes you can.



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