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Way OT: Old Refrigerator

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Howard H.

05-29-2007 11:30:38




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I'm having a debate with Mom about how old the refrigerator out in the old house is.

I was guessing 40 years, but she didn't think it was that old.

It has "Frigidaire - made only by General Motors" on a nameplate on it...

I was going to make it into a smoker, if it isn't collectible or anything like that...

Thanks for any advice,
Howard




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Hal/WA

05-29-2007 23:16:50




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to Howard H., 05-29-2007 11:30:38  
I don't know how old your Frigidaire might be, but I do know a bit about making them into smokers. You want to remove any plastic or rubber inside that might melt, but the door seals seem to hold up pretty well unless you really get it hot. The metal walls are fine, but you might want to remove the little freezer compartment, for extra room. The metal racks can be used to hang whatever you are smoking from.

The ones I have seen used old electric frypans for a heat source, sitting right at the bottom where it should be coolest. The control should be protected from anything dripping on it. Around here, they usually use apple wood for smoking, since there are lots of them in the area. I have always wanted to try hawthorn, to maybe actually find something the hawthorns are good for!

I also would attach a heavy padlock and hasp to lock the door closed, both to protect the items being smoked and to prevent children from getting inside. It is important that the temperature not be too hot or too cool when smoking, and obviously different things take different amounts of time to smoke. You might want to set it up so some smoke can escape, and so there is some airflow, but make it controllable.

Smoked trout is some of the best eating I have ever had. Makes my mouth water just thinking about it. Good luck!

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John M

05-29-2007 17:15:23




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to Howard H., 05-29-2007 11:30:38  
The freezer I got from my Granny has GE - Made By General Motors and it was made sometime in the mid 60s. Granny said she could not rememebr exactly when it was bought ,but it was before my Dad left for vietnam in 66.



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Midwest redneck

05-29-2007 17:07:47




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to Howard H., 05-29-2007 11:30:38  
All I can say is that if you pitch it be sure to bust off the doors, too many sue happy lawyers out there in case a kid closes himself up in it.



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FreeRanger

05-29-2007 15:24:10




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to Howard H., 05-29-2007 11:30:38  
Old refrigerators are NOT collectible....at least not with any sane person. The older the electric model the more EXPENSIVE it is to run it. Not just a little bit more expensive. Ask your local electric company to barrow the "appliance energy meter" to see just how quickly a new refrigerator would pay back in savings.

However, if it is a LP gas refrigerator (that works) then you might find a buyer for it. People with hunting cabins and houses off the electric grid MAY be interested in your old refrigerator.

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jdemaris

05-30-2007 05:45:17




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 Not collectable? in reply to FreeRanger, 05-29-2007 15:24:10  
Old refrigerators are not collectable? I guess you better tell that to the people that are paying thousands of dollars for restored GE montitor-top and older Fridgidaires.

Old cook stoves as well as the early electric refrigerators sell for high dolllars. There are several companies that restore them, and have waiting lists with clients that have ordered them.

In regard to engergy usage - I think you'd be surprised how much hype is involved with the claims of higher efficiency with newer appliances. I have tested many. I just got done checking total current draw on a new chest freezer -with the highest efficiency rating. Ran it for three months - and the compared it to my older International Harverster freezer - made in 1948. Very little difference in current draw. The old 1948 IH freezer uses 560 KWh per year. The new high efficiencly freezer which is smaller uses 426 KWh per year - sitting in cool basement. Energy Star rates it at 313 KWh per year.

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FreeRanger

05-30-2007 09:29:39




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 SANE people collect refrigerators? in reply to jdemaris, 05-30-2007 05:45:17  
What part of SANE didn't you read? Someone is paying thousands of dollars for a "restored" frig? Fool and his money...

My energy usage assumes daily use of refrigerator in a room that is 70 degrees or warmer year round. Not a freezer full of frozen meat in a "cool" basement that is rarely opened. Apples to oranges.

Clearly there are some people who have too much money and spend it on collecting things that have imaginary values. Collecting tractors could be considered one for some people. Especially if they don't ever actually use the tractor. My 1955 Ford is used for farming NOT for show.

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jdemaris

05-30-2007 10:53:11




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 Freeranger says we're NUTS in reply to FreeRanger, 05-30-2007 09:29:39  
I can read just fine - but unlike you, I don't assume someone is "insane" for collecting old things - for whatever reason. Seems - with your reasoning, I am insane, as is my wife, and are - I guess many who use this forum and collect antique tractors.

I was at an tractor auction last month, and besides tractors, there were two old, crappy looking GE montitor-top refrigerators. Each brought over $500 and there were many bids - all crazy people I guess.

I will also add, that some people collect older stuff just they like the way it looks, feels to have around, etc. If they can afford it, what's insane about that? But, let me add, that some older things -including cars, trucks, tractors, cook stoves - and yes - even old refrigerators - sometimes work pretty well for certain things.

Seems - at times - use of word "insane" is a bit relative. To me, buying a new car or truck for over $40,000 would be an insanse thing for me to do - but I don't give a d*man one way, or the other who else does it. Those that do so, with no money and choose to go into hock ?? Well, some might think that's nuttier than buying an old frig.

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buickanddeere

05-30-2007 09:06:20




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 Re: Not collectable? in reply to jdemaris, 05-30-2007 05:45:17  
True. Real world energy use has more to do with ambient temps, door seal condition, clean cooling fins & keeping the unit full Plus keeping wives and children standing there for minutes at a time with the door hanging open.



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John S-B

05-29-2007 20:44:46




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to FreeRanger, 05-29-2007 15:24:10  
LPG fridges that old also probably have ammonia as a refrigerant also. Not good when they start to leak, especially in the middle of the night with you family in the house. Saw that happen last year.



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wyod

05-29-2007 18:38:07




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to FreeRanger, 05-29-2007 15:24:10  
Hey Free, I'd have to disagree... couple years ago we bought a brand new Whirlpool "energy star" fridge and a seperate matching freezer. A little more than a year later, the fridge went belly up... could NOT be fixed... Whirlpool discontinued the line and could not replace it. I gotta admit, the company was fair with us... complete refund for both the fridge and freezer. Anyways, my missus likes antiques and had dragged home an old GM round top fridge... got it for free. When the high dollar fridge went out, we just plugged in the old timer... been using it ever since. Electric bill actually went DOWN. Based on our experience, I think the whole "buy new appliances to reduce energy consumption" program is just propaganda to keep people buying new stuff. We have no plans to buy a new fridge... this one is at least 50 years old and will probably last 50 more!

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jdemaris

05-29-2007 14:02:06




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to Howard H., 05-29-2007 11:30:38  
General Motors sold the Frigidaire division in 1979.
GM first got it's start with it around 1918-19 when it bought the Guardian Frigerator Co. From what I've read, the first Frigidaires that GM sold were much better deals that the competition - GE Montior Tops - but GE prevailed with better marketing. The only reason I know any of this is - my wife and I collect antique kitchen appliances - on top of tractors, trucks, boats, etc. It's sort of a mental illness, I guess.

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Spook

05-29-2007 17:31:12




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 Re: Way OT: Old Refrigerator in reply to jdemaris, 05-29-2007 14:02:06  
When GM sold Frigidare, it's refrigerators were the rated as the best. The old round fridges had a compressor with only 1 moving part, extremely reliable and efficent.



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