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Sorry I come across that way, to both of you. Not at all the way I meant it. Same goes to anyone else who's taking my words - in a way not intended. I'm not looking down on anyone. If anything - at least from what's happened around here, the opposite is what I've seen. My wife runs a museum that has their own antique engine show every year. Started getting a changing ratio of two distinct types of collectors and enthusiests. Then, several. . . - for lack of better decription - "clean, non-hands-on" types of people starting complaining to the museum director. Many complaints about guys parking their old crappy trucks on site, and many old engine guys being slobs, etc. And, yeah - much of that was and is true - including for me. I am a slob - it works for me - and it usually doesn't rub off. I got educated and worked white-collar for a few years - and I was miserable. Nothing wrong with it - I'm just not cut out for it. Maybe if I had to attend a white-collar meeting somewhere - I'd feel inclined to clean up a bit. With the engine show at my wife's musuem . . . what finally happened is this. The new director at that time - sent letters to all the guys she figured were "eyesores." Told them that for now on, they could not bring their own trucks on site, had to clean up their act, language, and manners, etc. And, that was it. Word travelled around fast - and the next show - non of the those guys showed up. A few sent letters to the museum and stated they'd never waste time and money trucking stuff to the show again - until the rules changed and the present director was gone. Now she is gone off to Kansas trying to ruin another museum, and we're trying to make ammends and get some of these guys back. As far as I'm concerned - all are very welcome. But, for anyone that comes to complain about the various lifestyles - maybe you're better off going elsewhere. With many of these old shows - the "slobs" would throw some old stuff on a trailer, tow it to the show, and then spend the weeking getting greasy, trying to get stuff running, swapping stories, etc. I don't recall ever once seeing any of these tractors guys attempting to "look down" at someone who was not quite like them. Nor have I. But, to the converse - I've seen it happen many times - with people complaining about the "white-trash" tractor slobs. I'm proud to say, I'm one of them. Let me also add, I'm not saying this happens everywhere - I have no idea. I'm not a cross-country traveller - New York, Vermont, and the UP of Michigan is my limit.
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