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Hersel

07-02-2007 12:47:44




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I have about 10 gallons of gas that is about four years old. What is recommended method of disposal?




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Leland

07-03-2007 08:03:30




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
just burn it that old stuff can cause valves to stick carbs to gum up .just put a match to it and get it over with



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Walt Davies

07-02-2007 22:50:51




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
Honestly I would just mix it half and half and burn it in any of your older equipment, I have used gas a lot older than that and it ran perfect.

Walt



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NCWayne

07-02-2007 19:07:09




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I was given a small forklift with a 4 Cyl Continental engine in it. I was told it had been setting for 5 or 6 years. I had no way to get the old gas drained so I added a can of sea foam, topped the tank off with fresh 87 octane and ran it til the tank was dry. Granted the exhaust stank but for the cost of gas who cares.



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Bus Driver

07-02-2007 17:12:32




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I hope you are able to discern the really bad advice given by some. 2-cycle engines need the freshest, finest fuel possible. I use my old gas in my Diesel tractor, mixed up to 10% proportion. Works fine. If the old gas will still pour, the Diesel can use it as suggested above.



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37 chief

07-02-2007 17:09:44




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I put some old gas in one of my tractors, and edded up with a bad case of sticking valves, it was a real mess. The gas was a bit older than 4 years. I will never put used gas in any of my motors again. I have a drum of 45 year old diesel any body want it. stan



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doug in illinois

07-02-2007 16:07:27




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I would use it up in any vehicle you have that burns a fair amount of gas, especially if still carburated. I am surprised no one has suggested running it thru a distallate burning tractor yet as a lot of the F12-F20 series started on gasoline and then switched to distallate or kerosene. Just my 2 cents worth, but I would even mix it with the gas for my mail route car at about a 10 percent ratio.

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mark

07-02-2007 15:58:14




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
This suggestion will make everybody scream and moan...but I know a man who has ran his Ford diesel tractor for years by pouring all used motor oil and stale gasoline in his bulk diesel tank and making smoke out of it. he wastes nothing...if it's oil, it gets diluted in his bulk tank and used. After 7-8000 hours and no problems, it's hard for me to fault his thinking. Ten gallons of old gasoline in 200 or more gallons of diesel ain't much. I'd run that old gas through my Super A without hesitation.

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J.C. IN AZ.

07-02-2007 15:04:30




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
At $3.39.9 per gallon for 87 octane/15% Ethanol I'd add it to some 91 Octane and forget about it. Don't spend money on Octane Boosters,most of them are worthless.Where do you live.Maybe I could swing by next trip east with my old 502 C.I.D. Chev and solve your disposal problem.



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dds-inc

07-02-2007 14:47:09




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
run it in 2 cycle engines maybe??? Mix it with fresh gas and burn it in an older car???



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RN

07-03-2007 11:00:15




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to dds-inc, 07-02-2007 14:47:09  
Burn in 2-stroke? If you're looking to replace the 2-stroke engine perhaps? At best looking at fouled exhaust port, worst case is burning crankbearing/rod bearing and needing new crankshaft. At least filter it with a water trap filter. RN



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BobReeves

07-02-2007 14:31:12




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I'd pour it in the tank of my 71 chevy PU in a heartbeat.. I believe that thing would run on camel pee.



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supera3

07-02-2007 14:30:37




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
Pour it in BMWGUY'S septic tank, with match,that should send him to his law office! Larry the cable guy sez 99%of the lawyers are giving the rest a bad name! bye



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Paul from MN

07-02-2007 14:02:01




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I would strongly advise against burning it. The key thing to keep in mind with gasoline is it is NOT the liquid that burns, it is the vapor. Gasoline is dangerous because it is highly volatile. The fumes are capable of ignition up to 12 feet away from a pooled source. It can float on water and may spread long distances, making ignition and flash back possible.

Be safe. Chances are your county has a hazerdoux waste disposal site and they will take your gas for free or a nominal fee.

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onefarmer

07-02-2007 14:01:29




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
Bring it to my house I'll take care of it for you!!



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Ludwig

07-02-2007 13:35:42




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I've been burning my old snowmobile gas in my old Cub Cadet. It burns fine but boy doesn't the 40:1 mix smoke like crazy. I tell the neighbors its good for the tractor, lubricates the top end don't you know. Keeps the bugs away while I mow the lawn too.



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RodInNS

07-02-2007 13:31:37




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
Provided that it isn't full of water, find a thirsty old carburated engine, and fire it in the tank, and use it. If it's suspect to having water in it, then dispose of it in some other method as mentioned already.

Rod



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tractormiallis

07-02-2007 13:27:06




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
If it smells stale, or not fresh like gas should, you could just pour it in a barrel and light it up. It would not explode, as its lost its freshness and would just burn up. Done it a few times. Or pour it on a brush pile and torch it.



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Matt from CT

07-02-2007 14:29:12




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to tractormiallis, 07-02-2007 13:27:06  
Please watch this video to see just how mellow and safe to handle 5 gallons of stale gas becomes. Link's not for dial-up users, it's huge.

Yeah, it was 5 gallons of "stale" gas put in the building by a member of a mutual aid department w/o knowledge of the host company.

Gasoline's vapor density at standard temperature & pressure is in the range of 3-4 times that of air. Gasoline has a flashpoint of -40ºF and therefore is potentially explosive at all conditions any of us normally encounter. In that video, that old "stale" gasoline somebody wanted to lazily get rid of was evaporating (since it was well above -40º), and spreading out nice a low since it was heavier then air, making a nice big area with the right mix of air and fuel to be explosive.

Your luck with burning it in a barrel had absolutely zilch with it losing it's punch from age and everything to do with LUCK and that the vapors were still down in the barrel and not spreading out yet where they'd find an explosive fuel:air ratio.

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BMW Guy

07-02-2007 13:19:03




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I'd pour it into my BMW sport utility vehicle and then put on my spandex shorts with my super trendy sunglasses. Then I'd drive it around some old country roads and spit gravel over all of the crazy old tractor collectors that are out for a drive on those backroads trying to work the glitches out of their silly old tractors. Then I'd have enough fuel left to head off to my law office in the city tomorrow and buy up some more country land so that me and all my friends can invade the country lifestyle. What a great way to live !!!!

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John T

07-02-2007 12:54:24




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
At the risk of the tree huggers and militant vegetarians screamin it will wreck the eco system n environment n cause global warming n were alllll lll gonna die (didnt petroleum come from the ground in the first place) Ill just say I knew this "dude" who used it to kill unwanted vegetation or multiflora rose etc on his farm located outside the city limits of course..... .....

Ol John T and all

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RustyFarmall

07-02-2007 18:33:58




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to John T, 07-02-2007 12:54:24  
John T. We think alike. Not too many years ago the best way to kill those really stubborn weeds was to substitute diesel fuel for the water in a mix of weed spray. diesel fuel is a bit pricey to be used that way now, but stale gasoline would be a good substitute.



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Mike M

07-02-2007 12:49:30




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 Re: Old Gas Disposal in reply to Hersel, 07-02-2007 12:47:44  
I'd use it to burn a brush pile with.



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